Bronze Coin Tree; Japan or China?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by wlwhittier, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

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    25'' long overall; 38 coins; 13.4 ounces; non-ferrous.
    Black finish isn't paint, and these are remarkably crude; very hard to get good detail; the following post will have to do until I get some good natural lighting.

    They were part of my uncle's swag, and have hung on the wall for maybe 30 years.

    Thanks for looking, and your welcome comments & wisdom. wlw
     
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  3. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

    Here are a few close-up pics...sorry about the poor detail. The sun will shine again, and I'll be trying for better work. wlw

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  4. Obone

    Obone Well-Known Member

    I think its chinese, the lettering on the reverses is manchu script, I believe
     
  5. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I agree. Looks like maybe Boo Yuwan (Beijing) according to my Krause guide, but it's hard to read. Qing Dynasty.
     
  6. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Definitely Chinese. Really neat!!!
     
  7. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

    Just went to wikipedia, the page on Qing Dynasty coinage. My head is spinning!

    Now it's a must to produce sufficiently high-definition photos to accurately ID this tree...and hopefully determine if genuine or fake (apparently there were many of them, and they were readily accepted as cash as there was little real difference in value). Is the black finish any indicator of authenticity?

    Part of me (a small, timid part) wants to snap one of the 38 coins off that tree, sand both sides for clarity, and so have a definitive identification.

    No Fear, folks...it's just a fools thought, not to be allowed expression.

    Let me dream a bit: If genuine, how rare is the tree? Any ideas about potential value, or where to take my research from here?

    264 years is a long time, and surely this pattern wasn't made identically during that whole period? This line is lifted straight off that wiki page:
    Boo Yuwan Ministry of Public Works (gōngbù, 工部), Beijing, Zhili 1644–1908 [​IMG]

    Thanks, all, for your interest and suggestions! Warren
     
  8. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

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    Well...the sun remains hidden, so this is my best effort.

    I hope there is enough detail to allow better identification...especially to narrow the window on year made.

    Anything else I an offer, to assist in this ID? Thanks, all of you, for looking. wlw
     
  9. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

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  10. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Peripheral Member

    Thanks!
    I'll bet the coins, circulated, are literally a dime a dozen...but the cast tree, as is, may have some value. I'll post those pics, with your generously furnished link, in the 'What's it Worth' forum...perhaps there'll be a good resource there. wlw
     
  11. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    It has been a while since I've seen a perfect unbroken example. The last time I saw one for offer, the seller was asking closer to the 4 figure mark. It used to be 'common' but I have not seen an example for the last 5+ years.
     
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