Brokage? Leukas Stater With Unusual Symbols

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  1. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Here is an interesting Leukas Stater with Pegasos and the helmeted head of Athena. Does it look to you all like the obverse is a partial brokage? It looks a little like the imprint of the helmet on the right side of Pegasos. Maybe more than one helmet impact?

    I bought this in my local coin shop on the principal of supporting stores willing to include a few ancients, even though it is somewhat damaged looking. I think it is turning out to be more interesting than I bargained for.

    I don't see the symbols next to Athena listed in my references. It looks like a cluster of two cherries on either side of Athena and some other vegetative symbol above her head. Hoover lists about 25 different symbols for Leukas but none of them describe what I am seeing. If someone has the BCD catalogue of Akarnania maybe these symbols are listed?

    Leucas Stater 1a.jpg

    Akarnania, Leukas, AR Stater or Tridrachm, 375-350 BC.

    Leukas is a colony city of Corinth. It sat on the end of a peninsula in the Ionia sea. To increase its defensibility the Greeks cut a channel across the peninsula (known as the Dioryktos) which turned the city into an artificial island. This channel has since filled in with silt.

    The temple of Apollo Leukatis held an expiratory rite every year in which a criminal was thrown off the cliff into the Ionian. To slow his fall, they would tie birds to his person. Boats were standing by to pull him from the water in case he survived. :wideyed:

    Please help me find the missing symbols and share your thoughts on it being a brockage.

    Post any coins you have from Leukas or featuring Pegasos!

    John
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Not sure what to say about the possible partial brockage.

    Neat coin! I'd like to get some non-Corinth colt staters.

    Here's one like your from CNG's archives, might be an obverse die match:
    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=39456

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    AKARNANIA, Leukas. After 435 BC. AR Stater (27mm, 8.61 gm). Pegasos flying left; L below / Helmeted head of Athena left; L E U and three ivy leaves around. Pegasi II pg. 411, 74/1. Toned, nice VF, oblong flan.
     
  4. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Thanks TIF! I looked on acsearch but did not try CNG.

    They are calling those symbols ivy leaves? I would not have considered them to be ivy leaves. Looks more like two cherries connected at the stem. Interesting how the flan shape is very similar to mine.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    (as I am crying) I have none from Leukas!!!!!!!!!

    But I do have the Pegasus
    Q TITIUS.jpg
    Q TITIUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS TITIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Head of Mutinus Titinus (Priapus) right, wearing winged diadem
    REVERSE: Pegasus springing right, Q TITI on base
    Struck at Rome 90 BC
    3.8g, 18mm
    Cr341/1, Syd 691; Titia 1
    Domitian 5.jpg
    DOMITIAN
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: CAESAR AVG F DOMITIANVS, laureate head right
    REVERSE: COS IIII, winged Pegasus standing right with raising left foreleg
    Struck at Rome, 76AD
    3.1g, 20mm
    RIC 921
    Gallienus 9.jpg
    GALLIENUS
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: GALLIENVS AVG, radiate head right
    REVERSE: SOLI CONS AVG, Pegasus right springing heavenward; N in exergue
    Struck at Rome, Sole Reign, 267-268 AD
    2.27g, 20mm
    RIC 283, Cohen 979
     
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  6. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

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  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I'm totally on board that it "might" be a brokage ... it certainly could be the back of Athena's helmet next to Pegasus' rump? (super-cool example, regardless)

    :rolleyes:
     
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  8. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Attractive sharp Akarnanian stater Theo.
    I think Pegasus was struck on a planchet with a defect.
    And No ivy or cherries , but olives imho
    compare them with the olives (left of the owl) on the greek tets from Athens.

    Heres my Pegasus from Akarnania:

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    Tetradrachma XF Attica Athens vz.jpg
     
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  9. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    @Andres2 I like the olives theory, there is a similarity there.

    You could be right, if there was a big depression in the obverse planchet, when the design was struck maybe the silver did not flow enough to fill up the die?

    I am a little surprised no one reacted to the Leukas religious ritual of tying birds to people and throwing them off a cliff into the sea. I guess this is common behavior where you all live.

    :) :) :)
     
  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Mean it's not where you live????
     
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  11. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    I would probably attend church more often if they performed this ritual.

    :)
     
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  12. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    I vote die clash. Is the blob at 2:00 an innie or an outie?
     
  13. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    It is an innie.
     
  14. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    It's a great coin!
     
  15. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Very interesting coin with those underlying flan characteristics and the triple ivy leaf symbol. I'm liking it alot!

    A rare double Pegasos fraction from Leukas.
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    AKARNANIA, Leukas
    Circa 450-400 BC
    AR Diobol. 0.81g, 11.9mm. BCD Akarnania 183. O: Pegasos right with curled wing; Λ, below. R: Δ-Ι-O, Pegasos facing slightly left, rearing up on hind legs, wings spread.
     
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  16. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Very nice @zumbly I like the archaic pegasus with curled wings.
     
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  17. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Well, I 'flipped' a coin and vote 'die clash':D

    As usual, I seem to have confused an example of that super OP coin type with one that got away......so all I can offer is an RR example:

    medusa pegasus sabula.jpg Medusa pegasus sabula reverse.jpg

    Gens Cossutia (moneyer Sabula), circa 74 BC---Rome mint---with Medusa and Bellerophon riding Pegasus.
     
  18. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    This type was not in the BCD sale.
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @Theodosius ...cool Stater!!! Nice Pegasus, and great obverse!

    I have several Pegasus'... but want to drop this one here. My latest RR capture:

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    Roman Republic
    AE Double Litra
    235 BCE 19.5mm 6.54g
    Rome mint
    Obv: Hercules r, club below
    Rev: Pegasus r, club above, ROMA below
    Ref: Craw 27/3; HN Italy 316; Sear 591
     
  20. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Pegasus? Reminds me of this double dactyl by the mysterious and pseudonymous poet, Senex Caecilius

    Horsing Around

    Clippedy-Cloppedy
    Wingéd horse Pegasus,
    Steed of Bellerophon,
    Legend does tell,
    Hoofed up Mt. Helicon
    Hydrodiviningly,
    Giving the Muses their
    Hippocrene well.
     
  21. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Clever and informative :).
     
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