Brockage Rockage!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by zumbly, Mar 8, 2017.

  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    This one just arrived, and coincidentally, @Bing shared one in a thread just yesterday. I decided to give this one its own thread as the specific reason I bought it was because I wanted an RR brockage for my collection. Naturally, now I wouldn't mind a non-brockage example of the type as well, preferably from the same obverse die :).

    You can read more about ancient brockages here and here, and yes, this is a pile on thread, so please post your brockages!

    RR - V Flaccus Brockage.jpg
    ROMAN REPUBLIC

    AR Denarius, obverse brockage. 3.81g, 20.9mm. Rome mint, 108-107 BC. L. Valerius Flaccus, moneyer. Cf. Crawford 306/1; cf. Sydenham 565. O: Winged and draped bust of Victory right; mark of value below chin. R: Incuse of obverse.
    Ex CNG 63, 21 May 2003, lot 1128
     
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  3. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Don't have one, sadly. That is a fascinating OP coin.Very nicely done @zumbly
     
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  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Thanks! You know what to do to get happy... :D.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice @zumbly. I would love to have this one as a companion to the one I just posted. What a great pair they would make, eh?
     
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  6. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

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    L. Plautius Plancus. 47 B.C. AR denarius (18 mm, 3.62 g). Brockage strike. Rome.
    Obv: L · PLAV[TIV]S below, head of Medusa facing
    Rev: Incuse of obverse.
    Crawford 453/1c; Sydenham 959b; Plautia 14.
    ex VAuctions/Triskeles Auctions, Sale 17, September 2016 (WJP Brockage Collection); ex Classical Numismatic Group, e-auction 59, February 2003.
     
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  7. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

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  8. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Great examples!!!

    My only 'brockage' is this kinda nasty looking legionary denarius I have posted numerous times before:

    Brockage legionary example.JPG brockage the reverse M anthony example.JPG
     
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  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Thats how I feel. Would take it too.

    Nice buy.
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Gorgeous brockage of a GREAT obverse! Nice capture @zumbly !

    Here is mine:

    RR AR Denarius ERROR BROCKAGE ROMA Helmeted Head-Incuse and reverse of obverse - 2nd-1st C BCE.JPG
    RR AR Denarius ERROR BROCKAGE ROMA Helmeted Head-Incuse and reverse of obverse - 2nd-1st C BCE
    Ref: Sear IDUNNO; Crawford 000/AHDUNNO
    Comment: Got this cuz 'ROMA' is retrograde too...
     
  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sweet OP-winner, Z-Bro (congrats)

    Oh, and cool thread additions from the usual suspects as well (rock on!!)

    I have a couple to add to this fine thread ...

    Illyria Dyrrhachion Brockage Error.jpg L Thorius c.jpg L Thorius d.jpg
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    zumbly posted my page which shows my best brockages BUT I warn that the page shows more examples of clashed dies than it does brockages. The purpose was to illustrate the difference between the two. I guess I need to dig harder and find coins that might be a little different and a little more educational.

    These are unusual brockages showing the incuse of the reverse replacing the portrait. Most are the other way around. That is because it is easier for a coin to get stuck in the top die and not be noticed than it is for one to be resting on the lower die and have the operator not notice it and brush it aside. The brockages of the reverse like this one were most likely made using hinged pincher dies that would be easier to use either side up or in places that put the reverse on the bottom die rather than the usual top.
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    My examples are from the Gallic emperors.
    Comes Avg - Probably Victorianus
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    Spes Avgg - Tetricus
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  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Brockages are more common from light weight coins than large bronzes because the latter tend to fall out of the dies more efficiently. My example is a barbarous or branch mint Claudius dupondius and being barbarous means the workmanship is not expected to be held to as high standards as Rome mint coins.
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  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i'm brockagless. :facepalm:

    on the list.

    the color of the coin is great also zumbly, in addition to the cool brockage.
     
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  16. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    A provincial of Faustina Jr. Its surfaces are rough and it's darkly patinated, so it didn't photograph all that well.

    Faustina Jr provincial brockage.jpg
     
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  17. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

  18. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A very nice brockage
     
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  19. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    There are some nice ancient brockage coins in this thread.
    Jupiter Brockage Collage.jpg
    Roman Republic
    L. Scipio Asiagenus
    AR Serrate Denarius
    106 B.C.

    3.68 gms, 18 mm
    Obv: Head of Jupiter facing left with the letter A below chin.
    Rev: Mirror brockage of obverse..
    Grade: EF. Only slight wear on the obverse devices. Perfectly centered & preserved incuse brockage on reverse.
    Other: Rome mint coin where the reverse normally depicts Jupiter driving a galloping quadriga.From Eye Appealing Coins October 2013.
     
  20. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Some brockages, including many of the above, are really quite beautiful. This one, not so much. Partial brockages also seem to be a bit unusual? Maybe @dougsmit has something to say about this:

    L. Appuleius Saturninus. Denarius circa 104, AR 20mm., 3.68g. Helmeted head of Roma l. Rev. Saturn in quadriga r., holding reins and harpa. In exergue, L·SATVRN.
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  21. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Thanks for the comments and coinshares, guys. It was a treat to see all the examples shown here.
     
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