Bought the Slab not the coin

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by JAY-AR, Oct 18, 2016.

  1. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    Ok, I bought this Morgan because of the PCGS Slab not just the coin. I paid $59 for the Morgan and is MS63. it's somewhat worth it without knowing the VAM as well....I'm wondering if the slab adds a little more value? Is it a generation 1.0, 1.1 or maybe a 1.2. I know the pic looks white but I'm detecting a slight green-ish, but ever so slight...It's really cool and I'm not a PCGS slab expert. Let me know what you think. Oh and you all rock! 1881 S PCGS Old Slab.jpg 1881 full OB PCGS Old.jpg 1881 full RV PCGS Old.jpg
     

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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    OGH. Might get a bump up but I'd leave it be. I'm a fan of older holders. :)
     
  4. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    Thanks Green! Oh, I have no intention of re-slabbing. It's too cool!
     
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  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Like you, my friend.......:)
     
  6. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    Well thanks you very much! (Say that with a Elvis voice);)
     
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  7. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

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  8. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    Yup, once I figure out what VAM it is, I'll probably send it to VSS if it's a significant VAM, and thanks so much dwhiz!
     
  9. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Looks more like an OWH maybe but I'm not an expert in the difference. Think I'll pull out @Conder101's book

    Edit: it looks like there is no distinction in green & white label gen1 PCGS in conders book. I know there's is a way to tell by minor font or placement variations I think
     
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  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Well, Conder is the expert......
     
  11. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    Chris, I looked at this before I posted, but just couldn't match it up.....it's got to be one of the 1st 3.
    http://www.pcgs.com/holders
     
  12. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    It does match up with gen 1.2
    Green* Label
    • Two piece "Rattler" plastic holder
    • Pale green ribbed cardboard stock - perf edges
    • Improved dot matrix printer
    • 4 alignment pins
    By the end of February, PCGS has settled on a pale green insert color. Common, though growing scarcer with the passage of time.
     
  13. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    It looks like one that's been sitting in someone's collection for a while and missed the crackout upgrade era. I'll never remove a Morgan from a rattler.
     
  14. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    There are a quarter of a million 1881-S Morgans in PCGS plastic alone, and almost that many at NGC. An "upgrade" would only mean it joined the single highest population grade of the single highest population issue. Heck, I have to wonder if any other issue at_all has half a million examples in slabs from one single year and mint.

    This issue, more than any other, is the reason for the slogan under my username.

    There are two "list" 1881-S's, and this is neither of them, so attributing it would be for academic enlightenment only. Me, I'd just sit back and just enjoy owning a PCGS 1.2.
     
  15. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Coin not bad at all. Don't touch that slab!
     
  16. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    Fur sure Dave, that's the plan, just going to sit back and enjoy! Your right Dave, there isn't anything striking as far as VAM attributes, I think I got a VAM 2, dbl first 8. But I love it just the same....it's purdy!:D Thanks again everyone, again, you guys ROCK!
     
  17. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    The green labels are known to fade. They are also very sensitive to white balance in the camera shot making them appear white.

    The known true white holders all have 108xxxx #s.
     
  18. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    Thanks Burton, I actually discovered that when I got the piece in hand. The pics on the bay looked white, once I got it in hand I could see just a hint of green. But of course my mind wanted it to be white......so I thought it could be an optical-cun-tusion. This ones pretty faded.
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I have not seen one of PCGS's 1.0 with a serial number over 1080900. I have seen PCGS's 1.1's with numbers under 1081000. As far as I know all of PCGS's 1.0 and 1.1's start with the 108XXXX. If it doesn't start with that it will be 1.2 or later. Other than the cruder dot matix printing on the 1.0 compared to the 1.1 the shape of the 2, 3, and 5 are markedly different between the two generations
     
  20. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I wouldn't mind if our friendly TPGs went back to the original label simplicity.Today, some of the labels look like they're supposed to compete with the coin for attention.
     
  21. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the info Conder! Hey, while I got your attention, I have a PCGS advertisement type slab. Here's a couple pics, is there any added value or interest in these type slabs.....have no idea where I got it. Also note it's listed as a 2004 D and it's a 2004 P (hee hee what a maroon) Any thoughts on this one? 2004 PCGS Mistake.jpg 2004 PCGS Mistake OB.jpg
     
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