Ok, I bought this Morgan because of the PCGS Slab not just the coin. I paid $59 for the Morgan and is MS63. it's somewhat worth it without knowing the VAM as well....I'm wondering if the slab adds a little more value? Is it a generation 1.0, 1.1 or maybe a 1.2. I know the pic looks white but I'm detecting a slight green-ish, but ever so slight...It's really cool and I'm not a PCGS slab expert. Let me know what you think. Oh and you all rock!
Yup, once I figure out what VAM it is, I'll probably send it to VSS if it's a significant VAM, and thanks so much dwhiz!
Looks more like an OWH maybe but I'm not an expert in the difference. Think I'll pull out @Conder101's book Edit: it looks like there is no distinction in green & white label gen1 PCGS in conders book. I know there's is a way to tell by minor font or placement variations I think
Chris, I looked at this before I posted, but just couldn't match it up.....it's got to be one of the 1st 3. http://www.pcgs.com/holders
It does match up with gen 1.2 Green* Label Two piece "Rattler" plastic holder Pale green ribbed cardboard stock - perf edges Improved dot matrix printer 4 alignment pins By the end of February, PCGS has settled on a pale green insert color. Common, though growing scarcer with the passage of time.
It looks like one that's been sitting in someone's collection for a while and missed the crackout upgrade era. I'll never remove a Morgan from a rattler.
There are a quarter of a million 1881-S Morgans in PCGS plastic alone, and almost that many at NGC. An "upgrade" would only mean it joined the single highest population grade of the single highest population issue. Heck, I have to wonder if any other issue at_all has half a million examples in slabs from one single year and mint. This issue, more than any other, is the reason for the slogan under my username. There are two "list" 1881-S's, and this is neither of them, so attributing it would be for academic enlightenment only. Me, I'd just sit back and just enjoy owning a PCGS 1.2.
Fur sure Dave, that's the plan, just going to sit back and enjoy! Your right Dave, there isn't anything striking as far as VAM attributes, I think I got a VAM 2, dbl first 8. But I love it just the same....it's purdy! Thanks again everyone, again, you guys ROCK!
The green labels are known to fade. They are also very sensitive to white balance in the camera shot making them appear white. The known true white holders all have 108xxxx #s.
Thanks Burton, I actually discovered that when I got the piece in hand. The pics on the bay looked white, once I got it in hand I could see just a hint of green. But of course my mind wanted it to be white......so I thought it could be an optical-cun-tusion. This ones pretty faded.
I have not seen one of PCGS's 1.0 with a serial number over 1080900. I have seen PCGS's 1.1's with numbers under 1081000. As far as I know all of PCGS's 1.0 and 1.1's start with the 108XXXX. If it doesn't start with that it will be 1.2 or later. Other than the cruder dot matix printing on the 1.0 compared to the 1.1 the shape of the 2, 3, and 5 are markedly different between the two generations
I wouldn't mind if our friendly TPGs went back to the original label simplicity.Today, some of the labels look like they're supposed to compete with the coin for attention.
Thanks for all the info Conder! Hey, while I got your attention, I have a PCGS advertisement type slab. Here's a couple pics, is there any added value or interest in these type slabs.....have no idea where I got it. Also note it's listed as a 2004 D and it's a 2004 P (hee hee what a maroon) Any thoughts on this one?