Biggest and smallest EL

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by I_v_a_n, Feb 23, 2019.

  1. I_v_a_n

    I_v_a_n Well-Known Member

    My old numismatic desire recently have been realised: now I have a biggest EL nomination - stater from Cyzicus about 16 gram and a little EL from Phocaea 0,09 gram. This one is a 1/192 part of stater. Or, at my oppinion, it have a chances to be an ancient fouree of 1/96 part of stater. At any way they looks pretty together and I am happy to own they both. A quest to find this tiny seal was much more difficult than to buy a cyzicene :)

    Please, post yours biggest and smallest together!

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  3. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    My smallest is this AV 1/32 of a Dukat from Regensburg
    Also have the 1/32 Dukat from Nurnberg/ AV 1/4 Fanam Maratha Confederacy g349.jpg f3afe5b1b923c03902a91109a0ab58d5.jpg 1323500l.jpg lf (15).jpg , biggest coin in my collection AV 1000 Schillings 1969 Uganda
    1/32 Dukat 6mm. 0.06 g Nurnberg
    1/32 Dukat 6mm. 0.06 g. Regensburg
    1000 Schillings 58mm 142 g.
    1/4 Fanam 5mm. 0.06
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    SMALLEST (AV) ANCIENT
    upload_2019-2-23_16-0-54.png COMPARE Carthage AV 1-10 Stater to St Gaudens 20 AV R.JPG
    Carthage - Zeugitana AV 1-10th Stater-Shekel 350-320 BCE 0.94g 7.5mm Palm- Horse Head SNG COP 132


    ONLY EL ANCIENT

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    Carthage Zeugitana 310-270 BCE EL Dekadrachm-Stater 18.5mm 7.27g Tanit Horse 3 pellets in ex MAA 12 SNG COP 136
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Excellent! What's on the obverse of your stater?

    I assume you're asking for the biggest/smallest pair within a specific type or series rather than just the biggest and smallest in our entire collections, so here are a couple of pairings that fit that bill. If I misunderstood I'll gladly post my overall biggest/smallest pairing :D.

    Largest/smallest denominations of Klazomenai winged boars: (hasty cell phone pictures; the paper background is off-white)

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    The denomination nomenclature is inconsistent in the literature. This largest denomination is sometimes called a didrachm, sometimes a stater, and sometimes a drachm. Mine is 6.77 gm. The smallest is the hemiobol; mine is 0.27 gm.

    Largest/smallest denominations of Ptolemaic bronzes:

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    The larger coin is sometimes called an octobol; mine is 48 mm (91.8 gm) and the smaller denomination, sometimes called a chalkous, is 14 mm (1.7 gm).
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I read this request as wanting only electrum coins and I have none from the early Greek period. I have seen some I like but CNG has scared me off being to quick to pounce on a generic coin by selling bulk lots of the common things that I would probably want just as a sample example. The time will come when people resell the pedestrian coins or I will continue to live without. Yes, IMO, they have gold content but the weight and alloy do not justify the prices I am seeing for the ordinary ones.

    In electrum, I do have a later Byzantine which seems to exist in various levels of gold/silver ratio. I am not a gold fan and can not tell alloy by eye. Anyone? I was once told that cup shaped Byzantine coins have an alloy of two metals (gold/silver or silver/copper) while flat coins are more pure one metal. Confirm or deny.
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Biggest and Smallest STRUCK / STAMPED Coins in My collection:

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    Carthage AE 15-Shekel 45mm dia 7.5mm thick 102.6g vs Ionia AR Tetartemorion 4mm 0.13g dia 11 to 1
    - MASS: 789 to 1
    - 15-Shekel thickness is almost twice the diameter of the Tetartemorion.
     
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  8. I_v_a_n

    I_v_a_n Well-Known Member

    WOW! This 0,06 grams are fantastic and impressive in details! For some times I am thinking about ducats too - there are a lot of beautiful coins!

    Oh, this AV/EL Carthage coins are one of the strong anchors thats keeps me in ancients and do not let me to "swim" to buy ducats, nobles and franc a'cheval... :) I have noone in my hands and always keep it in minds.

    Yes, I think about a pair of coins from the almost same context of place and time. Your winged boars fantastic and impressed me enoght to buy such a stater of Cyzicus in 2016 but in 2017 I have to sell it.

    Now I have this type. I do love this type with a man holding his fish (aimes, dreams, wishes and all his life) in strong hand :)))))

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    Hmmmm my XRF glasses indicates about a 50% AV content in this coin :). I do love a several types of Byzantine coins with facing Crist portrait and I have the same minds about flat and "cup" coins.

    WOW this heavy bronzes impressed very much. Sometimes I am thinking about cast OLBIA with facing Demeter - this is very beatiful coin and 6 or 7 cm in diameter. But one time I have hold in hands an OLBIA 300+ grams with Athene on obverce...... but fantastic pricy....
     
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  9. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Ivan....thank you. If, I where you I would definately expand your collecting into esp. Holy Roman Empire Dukaten, Medieval Cavalier d'ors/ Florins/ Ecus/ Goldgulden/ beautifull coinage. Here is one of my favorite "affordable" Dukaten. The massive 100/ 50/ 40 down to 10 Dukaten are only for the "Wall Street" elite:(
    Here are two nice examples/ from Regensburg/ Transylvania John 7e3054cdae42b5492bd9ef69ad38b093.jpg ca88fcffa72454768e7b5468ea576d72.jpg IMG_0700.JPG IMG_0101.JPG
     
  10. I_v_a_n

    I_v_a_n Well-Known Member

    One of my friends propose a name for such a small denomination "megahemihekte" :joyful::hilarious:
     
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