Beware Ebay $1000 Note SCAM -

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by Bedford, Nov 24, 2006.

  1. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

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    If you look at these notes 1st off the 65 PMG graded note has been changed- The grade has been altered from a AU55 to a 65 the note does not even have the qualities to be graded 65 it has wrinkles thru the signature & also on the right side below the series & date and a dot on the ring around the portrait along with smudeges on the left corner ! Not to mention the margins-

    It also says under the grade that it is About uncirculated ! For a 65 - I think not ! It would read Gem Unc. if it were really 65-

    The 6 is darker in color than the 5 too -

    The CGA AU55 says Bankstamp & it appears to me that the "bankstamp" has been altered out-

    Just a heads up to anyone looking at this auction- It looked too good to be true & it is , PLEASE DO NOT BID ON THESE - TRUST ME-
     

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  3. kendo

    kendo New Member

    Well I dont see how the 6 in 65 is altered. The 5 has a straight bar on top and the 6 is round. How could they do that?
     
  4. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies


    Just like this - Same note just photoshopped
     

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  5. n_sandler4

    n_sandler4 Paul

    You can tell the 65 has been altered because the text below the 65 says "About Uncirculated"
     
  6. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    also the reverse of the holder says fifty five
     
  7. erwizard

    erwizard Numismatic RN

    the second one looks like the fake!! :)
     
  8. CoinOKC

    CoinOKC Don't Drink The Kool-Aid

    Is it possible the grading company could have made a mistake and placed "65" on the holder instead of "55"? It seems unlikely, but I think it's definitely possible.
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Actually, if you look carefully, there are two different notes, the first is F00002480A, the 65, and the 55= G00090773A,
    The description also states: "In this auction I want to offer you 2(two) banknotes
    with a value of $1,000 and 1934 production year."
    So apparently there are two different notes.
     
  10. numisfun

    numisfun New Member

    Yes the auction was for two notes, but the issue is or was that the both were messed with. The one that had been graded 55 said "bankstamp" & there was no bankstamp on the note which made me believe that it had been altered & the one that was graded 65 was altered to a 55 if you look at all 4 pictures. So yes there was two notes for sale in the auction but they were both altered-
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Aha, now I've got it. It took me a while to find the fifty-five on the back of the note.
    Great catch!
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The grade on the first note has also been altered. Look at the number under the barcode on the back of the holder 2211-50-105011. CGA graded this note as an AU-50. The 2211 is the Freiberg number (seen at the top left corner of the front label), the 105011 is the CGA serial number (Seen on the right side of the back label) and the 50 is the grade they assigned.
     
  13. bzcollektor

    bzcollektor SSDC Life Member

    You can check the exact grade given to any coin or note given by PCGS by entering the PCGS Serial Number on their website. This is FREE, you do not have to belong to PCGS Collector, or be a Dealer to find out.
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    bz:
    Thanks for the info.
     
  15. Skylark

    Skylark Senior Member

    "This listing has been removed"-ebay
     
  16. coinage86

    coinage86 New Member

    just look for un-graded $1000 bills for $1200 to $1300.
     
  17. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper




    Not only those things.. but at 1:eek:o O'Clock position there is a nice stain just above Clevands head!!
    Do you really think there is an AU 65?? From AU it goes to crisp unc, choice crisp unc, then gem....if anyone knows the correct sequence please let us know. :D


    RickieB
     
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