Does anyone have a recommendation for the best scanner to use when imaging your coins? I know probably having a down facing camera mount w/ a dslr would be ideal, however I was wondering if anyone has gotten good results out of flatbed scanners? I use this scanner - Epson Perfection V30 Photo Scanner Usually my pictures turn up dull. Probably excellent for pictures, but all I use it for are the coins. Just curious -JP
Buy a canon ELPH 100 HS. New $130, used $50-$90. A scanner does a terrible job at coins. You would be much better off buying a used P&S than trying to use a scanner. Remember, it's not WHAT camera you use, it's HOW you use it. The following pictures were taken with that camera.
Excellent. Thank you for the advice! (truthfully I've been using the scanner and my iphone with a 30x jewelers loupe in front of the lens)
Scanner images turn out dull (lack of luster) for a specific reason - it's because of the angles, or rather the lack of angles. So to get a scanner to produce a pic that shows a coin's luster, or color for that matter, all you need to do is create an angle between the coin and the scanner glass. You can do that easily but putting something about 1/4 inch thick under one edge of the coin. Now that's what used for me on my scanner. Yours may be slightly different, the angle may need to be slightly more or slightly less. And you do that by changing the thickness of what you put under the coin. Another coin may work for example. Or maybe one side of an Air-Tite, or maybe a complete Air-Tite. Experiment a bit, try different things out until find the right angle for your scanner. It works. Scanners can take pics every bit as good a camera. You just have to know how to do it.
With all due respect, that statement is incorrect. Even if you get the angle right, the end result will be very, very grainy. I've never seen a scanner that came close to even a $50 walmart special as far as image quality. Even a modern cell phone camera can produce better pictures. Here is a photo of a buffalo nickel taken with a cell phone at 1 megapixel resolution. No scanner can beat this.
This one was taken with my cell phone: This one was taken with my DSLR and macro lens under the same light:
Detecto, While I do agree that a camera is the weapon of choice, you are incorrect about a scanner producing a grainy image. A scanner can produce a very sharp image with no grain. The problem as Doug suggested is the dull lifeless look. Since I never tried his "trick" I would not argue with his results. Also, the example of the '38 buff is dull and lifeless to begin with. A full res scanner pic would blow that pic you have away. Mike
+5. Some forum members on CT (mainly world people) Use scanners and produce better pics than you could imagine. Why? Because they probably don't have a cheap one.
It's all about the lighting. Cheap or expensive, flat light will make for a bad coin picture - be it with a scanner or a camera. I'm curious how well the tilt-the-coin technique works. Does anyone have some flat vs tilted sample scans?
I'll be trying this technique when I get home this afternoon. I'll post tilted vs non-tilted coin images if someone doesn't beat me to it.
No, it isn't incorrect at all. As with other things to do with coins, you still have much to learn. But as I have told you before, there is nothing wrong with that. We ALL had to learn ! Scanners can and do capture luster and color - if you know how to do it. Otherwise they don't. Here is a pic, using an HP scanner that cost about $150 when I bought it. That same scanner is now owned by another member because he liked the pictures it made so much. This pic shows luster and color both. And it is completely in focus and not the least bit grainy. If you look you can see that one edge of the coin is propped up to create the angle so the light can be reflected properly to show luster and color. It is the exact same principle of using the axial method with a camera. Only I discovered this method with a scanner long before anybody ever even of thought of the term "axial method".
Thank you for the above samples - they confirm something I suspected: the proped-up side of the coin is out of focus. Scanners are designed to put their focal plane at the same distance as the surface of the glass to scan pictures and documents. The side of the coin that was raised to create the angle is not sharp because it is not in the focal plane. The capsule the coin is in is also catching the light and making a reflection, washing out the top edge of the coin. A camera with a macro lens and some simple lighting is capable of doing a better job. That being said, if you don't know how to use it a camera with a macro lens and some simple lighting it is capable of doing a much worse job too!
There's nothing out of focus in those pics. The letters at 12 are every bit as sharp as the letters at 6. And since I had the coin in hand I can verify that details in the pics were 100% accurate.
No offense, but you are wrong - at least in your sample. Picture quality of the top half is clearly compromised and would be unacceptable in a professional situation. Edit: By professional situation, I mean the photo would be unacceptable to a pro photographer charging for his work. The photo has clearly been acceptable for whatever your purpose is.
what about USB microscopes for details. what works and what's worth the $? BTW, scanners do ok, if you set the resolution up. for me, way better than I have been able to get with my cellphone camera. I definitely agree that a modest camera with good close up macro setting and good lighting will produce the best pics, but you have to have something better than my 4 M-pix camera-phone sample of a high res scan on my HP printer/scanner. if you open it with a good viewer, you can zoom in on a LOT of detail. http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i378/softmentor/1cLam41-0001.jpg
You get what you pay for. I worked at a billboard company long ago, this was back in the late 90s, but we had a scanner that cost more than most BMW's, you can bet your life it took amazing scans of just about anything you could fit on the scanning bed. We also had 25 foot long printers that cost a quarter million dollars a piece. On slow days, it was mesmerizing to watch the printers print out the billboards, line by line for them to then get welded (plastic welders) together for the larger 25'x80' billboards.