Beautiful 1916 Merc. - Are these clean marks ?

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  1. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    I am checking out this mercury dime. I would like your opinion if the marks I see in the field (front of face) are clean marks or just lamination marks from the die. What do you think about the bands Cleaned 1916 Merc.jpg Cleaned 1916 Merc.jpg Cleaned 1916 Merc-Rev.jpg ?
     
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  3. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Man, unless I'm mistaken that dime has been harshly cleaned. Those look like nasty hairlines on the obverse. Unless I'm proven wrong, I wouldn't touch it.

    Steve
     
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  4. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    The surfaces look odd, I'd pass if those are the only photos you can get. Like @Stevearino stated and based off the dark areas that are protected (the R and behind head on obverse, the axe hole area on reverse) the coin looks cleaned.
     
  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Pass for sure...who knows what this coin has seen....or been done to.
     
  6. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    IMO, when it comes to eye appeal it really doesn't matter what anything is technically. If it looks like crap, then that's what it looks like.

    A coin can technically be Unc. but look AU or EF because it was struck from worn dies. Does it matter what it is technically if it still looks EF?
     
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  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I just don't like the looks of the obverse. For no particular reason, I'd pass.

    Chris
     
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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Harshly cleaned. Pass, Pass, Pass!
     
  9. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    As the idiot in the room, for $5-$7 or less, I'd buy it, just to get a closer look at it. From those pics, it does appear to be harshly cleaned on the obverse, but the scratches appear to get right up to the face without scratching the face. Nice bands, though.
     
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  10. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    This. Never say never, but under this lighting I'd expect those lines to plainly cross the devices as well. There's no way you could brush a coin that hard without the lines extending through the devices.

    That said, lighting - especially on raised areas - can be deceptive, and I've not seen a Merc with such obvious die polishing (although generally one would expect such polishing to be north-south as seen here).

    The killer pickup for me - the one that convinces me it's cleaned rather than die polishing - is the crud clinging to the R in LIBERTY. Ain't no way that one single spot gets crud when nothing else does. All the same, I'd throw a few bucks at it, to shoot my own images highlighting the cleaning and use these images as a comparative for educational purposes. I'd just know I was buying a harshly cleaned coin.
     
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  11. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    This is the super special, ultra-ultra rare 1916-D variety. See the sideways (doubled?) D in front of the nose/eyes?
     
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  12. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Upon magnification, I see it! I see it! Upping my bid.

    Steve
     
  13. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    For me I would have to have the coin in hand to make a final decision.
     
  14. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    I'm going to $10 now, lol.
     
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  15. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Too rich for me. I, therefore, yield to the gentleman from Massachusetts.

    Steve
     
  16. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Uh oh......that sounds like a political statement.......... yield ?
    Gentleman ? Well not this year for sure......you're safe lol
     
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  17. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    Thank you, kind sir. However, since it is crrently at $15.50, I, too, shall pass.

    (watch it become a discovery piece with that D on the face, lol)
     
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  18. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    The last coin show I went to, people were talking about sticking coins in potatoes and the potassium from the potatoes makes them color up nice ....
     
  19. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    I'd pay maybe $5-$7 because it looks like an FSB.
     
  20. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    If that dime was a 'D', you guys would be all over it. Cleaned or not........ devil.gif
     
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  21. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Cleaned. You can see the luster breaks on the nose and chin. Probably had a spot they were trying to remove
     
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