I have a few coins that I want to prove its authenticity. I heard I should go to ANACS vs PCGS because its cheaper and is willing to grade coins that are cleaned. Any suggestion to which I should go to(or others) just to prove the coins' authenticity?
All of the major services will authenticate and encapsulate coins that have been improperly cleaned. PCGS will slab it as "Genuine" No Grade, NGC will slab it as "Improperly Cleaned" Details Grade as will ANACS, but ANACS has the lowest cost. Before, you submit these to see of they are real or not, why not post some quality photos here. There are a lot of members with tons of experience. Why go to the expense of having them authenticated if none of these companies will encapsulate a fake? Chris
It would be nice if you could post photos of some of your questionable coins. Also, accurate weights & dimensions will probably be requested by many when you post the photo(s).
I dont have the accurate weights, but here goes. And for this one, i know for sure it is real. The only problem is not in a good condition, since someone in my family thought they could help by cleaning it. Which made it worst. I am selling it on ebay, hope it gets a good price on it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120727309627&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_536wt_1141
I dont know if I'm right, but in your eBay listing you did'nt specify that it was cleaned, so they think they are bidding on a problem free 1933 China Dollar, as you said this is a rare date. My question is could'nt they get you for listing it without specifying the problem.....? They'll pay problem free money, for a problem coin......
I am not sure about that because I never seen anybody write cleaned on their auction, even when there is an obvious cleaning. And just incase if the bidder wanted to return the coin, there is always the 7 days return policy. So I thought it would cover everything....
I don't collect world coins but I've owned a few Chinese silver dollars and I know they are heavily counterfeited. But I am not sure the value of genuine, circulated ones is worth the cost of grading. A friendly dealer at a local B&M might be a better source. Of course if it is a very valuable one that's another matter. And if you feel a details grade is important then ANACS or PCGS is best. Most collectors who do this, knowing that a coin is genuine but won't cleanly grade, go to one of these TPGs to get variety attribution or a details grade that will make some difference in market value. As for the 1933 coin you are auctioning, it is harshly cleaned. The pictures show this clear as day. I would have mentioned it in the listing. It improves your credibility; you'd merely be stating the obvious. But you would also be reducing the chances of a return or poor feedback. Generally, it is a good idea to mention all problems. This practice won't bring you the highest price but rather the correct price. And you won't have unhappy customers and negative feedback. FWIW. Lance.
I have compared your coin to an MS 1934 in my collection. There are differences in the details of the ship between my coin & your coin. Of course, they are two different dates & two different coins so this may be normal. However, there are definately a couple differences. These details are in the protected areas of the design which should not be worn or mushy on your coin even though your coin is worn & cleaned. The fact that the protected details have these "mushy" details also makes the coin suspect IMO. Details in a protected area should be more sharply defined IMO. You should weigh it & check to see if it is possibly magnetic. These are a couple easy checks to either confirm or negate it being suspect. I am not saying that it IS fake. I am just saying that it is suspect IMO. Others at CT may have other ideas for you.
I wanted to post photos comparing my coin to your coin but my computer mouse is causing me grief. I'm going to turn the computer off for the night & work on it tomorrow. In the mean time, here is a photo depicting the bow of the ship on my coin. If you compare it to the ship on your coin, I think you will see some differences. These differences may be normal or not. This is what made your coin suspect IMO. I hope some experts can comment further. BTW, I visited your blog & you have provided a nice history of the coins & China. Good night for now.
