Aurelian the savior!

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  1. arashpour

    arashpour Well-Known Member

    For a while I was on a hunt to get my hand on a hoard coin of Aurelian. He is in my believe one of last strong emperors of rome who really revived it from going to fall in third century crisis. I eventually found a nice example from "South Petherton Hoard" with a fairly good price. I like people here share their thoughts on Aurelian and if they know any more details on his life and era please share!

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  3. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Well, he had an interesting time recapturing the Palmyrene Empire. Both Vabalathus and Zenobia were paraded in a triumph in Rome, but I remember that they were allowed to live. A nice change of pace for the era...

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  4. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Nice hoard find, Arashpour. And that Valbalathus is a fine one too, ancient coin hunter.

    I recently got my first Aurelian - a stomping on a captive type. It is my only "silvered" coin from that era.

    Aurelian - ORIENS AVG ant Mar 2018.jpg

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    Aurelian Antoninianus
    (c. 270-275 A.D.)
    Rome Mint

    IMP AVRELIANVS AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right / ORIENS AVG, Sol walking left, holding globe and raising right hand, foot on one of two bound captives. Mintmark X. RIC 62, X; Cohen 154.
    (4.22 grams / 24 mm)
     
  5. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

  6. Multatuli

    Multatuli Homo numismaticus

    Great coins! I also have an ORIENS AVG, but a bit different: aurelianus.jpg
    Silvered antoninianus, RIC V 135, 4.282g, 22.7mm, Mediolanum.
    Obverse IMP AVRELIANVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust right.
    Reverse ORIENS AVG Sol standing half left, radiate, nude but for chlamys over shoulders and left arm, raising right hand commanding the sun to rise, globe in left hand, foot on captive left, P in exergue.
     
  7. arashpour

    arashpour Well-Known Member

    @ancient coin hunter Thanks for reminding the palmyra I totally forgot about that and I guess that is yet another reason I think he was one of the last emperors who tried to revive a dying empire to its old glory...
     
  8. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    This is my nicest coin of Aurelian, doing some "world restoring".

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    Aurelian, Antoninianus, 270-275 AD

    O: IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG; R: RESTITVT OR_BIS, Female standing right, presenting wreath to emperor standing left, scepter in left hand S in middle field XXI in exergue Antioch Mint; 23mm, 3.8g RIC V: 386
     
  9. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Sweet hoard coin - I don't have a coin provenanced to a particular hoard yet, but it's on the list of wants.

    I do have this Aurelian which I'd like to upgrade at some point:
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    I'm sure you've seen the details of the "
    South Petherton Hoard" and I make note there were 52 Aurelian's found. A majority of the coins were returned to the finder and eventually sold for £48,800 (CoinWeek)

    Here is a write-up on the hoard at
    York Coins
     
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  10. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Let's see the reverse! :) (Are you going to crack it out? With the photo you can still prove it's from the hoard...)

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  11. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Aurelian is one of my favs. Sadly his reign ended prematurely after just 5 years. But within that 5 years the empirial bad @$$ was able to completely take back all of the lands that Rome had lost in the last 50 years.
    As I recall, one of his discontented secretaries/slaves created a fake execution list in the emporers hand and showed it to his top generals. The generals seeing their names on the list decided they must act swiftly and cut him down while he was on the side of the road taking a leak. Once the forgery was uncovered the secretary was beheaded. But the damage was done. One of the greatest of all the Augustii cut down by a forgery.
    The saddest thing of all, I'm not a huge fan of his coins!:facepalm:
    But here are some of mine... CollageMaker Plus_201846153342609.png CollageMaker Plus_201845204813292.png CollageMaker Plus_20184520495995.png
     
  12. arashpour

    arashpour Well-Known Member

    @Ryro Interesting story and very sad! had he remained in power for more, I am sure Rome would go back to its glory. This is a lesson that shows what damages court intrigues have done in past!
     
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  14. Severus Alexander

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  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The earliest coins of Aurelian were just as poorly made as late Gallienus on small flans. Shortly afterward he straightened out the problems at the mint requiring the workers there to do their jobs properly. This is known as the revolt of Felicissimus. A couple years later, we see the start of the coins marked XXI to indicate the coins contained the proper 20:1 alloy. I believe a collection of Aurelian needs at least one of the early, trashy coins
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    and piles of the later, better ones:
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  16. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Speaking of shoddy mint work, how about a Claudius II Gothicus with a Gallienus reverse die? According to some notes I found in Wildwinds, this RIC 63 with Libertas, a scepter and an X in the field uses a Gallienus reverse die. Later Claudius II Libertas issues have a cornucopia, apparently.

    I'll bet if Claudius had lived long enough, he would've put the hurt on the Rome mint workers just the way Aurelian did.

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    Claudius II Gothicus
    Rome Mint - Æ Antoninianus
    (268-270 A.D.)

    IMP CLAVDIVS AVG, radiate & cuirassed bust right / LIBERT AVG, Libertas standing left, holding pileus & vertical scepter, X in right field. RIC 63 var.
    (sceptre); cf Sear5 11349.
    (Reverse dies of Gallienus used)
    (2.66 grams / 19 mm)
     
  17. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Some of my more attractive Aurelian coins. I enjoy looking at the comically distorted portraits of the emperor, with long necks, bull-necks, and so forth.

    Aurelian Fortuna Antoninianus.jpg Aurelian IOVI CONSER Antoninianus.jpg Aurelian Libertas Antoninianus.jpg Aurelian ORIENS AVG antoninianus.jpg
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    It did not stop at the neck. Shoulders:
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  20. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I think the Wildwinds info is inaccurate. There are recorded hybrids of Claudius II and Gallienus, but this reverse was common for CII, and on it, Libertas always holds a vertical sceptre, whereas on Gallienus's coins, we see her holding a transverse sceptre.

    Additionally, the authors of RIC also made a mistake when they described Libertas as holding a cornucopiae for these Rome mint issues. They reference Cohen (Cohen 150-2), where she's described as holding a sceptre. She only holds a cornucopiae on issues from the Siscia mint.

    This search page from the new RIC V/1 online database (really the best place to go to delve into coinage of CII, IMHO) will make things a lot clearer than I can explain :).
     
  21. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    bull neck, Serdica mint with a rare test bite :)

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