Aurelian - MARS INVICTVS

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by maridvnvm, Nov 23, 2014.

  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I don't actively collect Aurelian but have a penchant for Mars types. I have the opportunity to purchase the following coin which isn't particularly rare but is a quite interesting coin in good grade.

    Aurelian Antoninianus

    Obv:– IMP AVRELIANVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– MARS INVICTVS, Mars, naked, holding spear, standing right receiving globe from Sol, standing left holding whip in left hand
    Minted in Cyzicus mint, 10th emission, officina 3; start to mid 275 CE. (G // XXI).
    Reference:– RIC 357 Bust Type F. La Venera 10718. Estiot RIC temp #3076, citing 12 examples

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    Martin
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    This is a very nice find. The obverse is nicely detailed and alone would be enough to consider this coin. The Mars reverse is one I haven't seen even though you say it's not particularly rare. Now I will have to keep my eyes peeled for one similar.
     
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  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that's a pretty dang sweet one martin.
     
  5. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

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  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Beautiful coin. It would appear that your reverse is a die match to the one pictured at at ric.mom.
     
  7. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Very nice Martin..
     
  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Awesome coin, Martin ... Mars, eh?

    Ummm, I'm not sure who is giving my Aurelian the wreath? (my seller's notes merely said "woman" handing Aurelian wreath) ... maybe it's Mars' mum? (Marsha)


    ;)

    Aurelian a.jpg Aurelian b.jpg
     
  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I think it's Terra.
     
  10. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Great-looking coin, and one I'd welcome in my own collection, but I do with I could find more interest in Aurelian coins. His reverse designs seem to be amongst the least varied of this period.
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    To me, the interesting part of the OP coin is that it varies from the norm of two figure types. Usually one of the figures is the emperor receiving victory or a wreath from some god. Here we have one god giving a wreath to another god. There are coins of Diocletian and Maximianus with Jupiter and Hercules but these both represent one of the two rulers so, in effect, we have both rulers shaking hands in the personages of their patron deities. It is a nice coin.
     
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  13. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Another Aurelian, Mars type to throw on the hoard...

    Aurelian
    Obv:– IMP AVRELIANVS AVG, Radiate and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– RESTITVTOR EXERCITI, Mars in military dress standing right, holding spear in left hand, giving globe to Emperor standing left , holding long sceptre in left hand.
    Minted in Cyzicus. (//XXI). early – summer A.D. 275
    Reference:– Cohen 206. RIC 366 Bust Type F (Scarce). RIC temp #3080 (8 ex.).

    3.75 gms. 25.15 mm.

    Some corrosion and encrustation but on a large flan and still quite pleasing.

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  14. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nice coins martin, that first one is sweet as pie.
     
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  15. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    I found this thread while researching this new coin...

    I have a soft spot for Aurelian and his coins and noticed this was a different reverse legend than you normally see... so I bought it in spite of the coin's roughness. While the two figures giving and receiving things is a too common reverse for late 3rd century coins, this legend seems to be rare-ish. (MARS INVICTVS)

    I like the little captive between Mars and Sol too! I also like how you can see just a tiny distance between Mars' hand and the globe, making it obvious that he is reaching out to receive the globe from Sol. I was wondering why Sol is the one with his foot on the captive when Mars is the god of war. Then I thought that maybe Mars had given Sol the captive and was receiving the globe in return for his awesome conquering war hobby. What do you think?

    Sorry for the junk photos... this one was fighting my attempts to get an iPhone pic.
    Aurelian_MARS_INVICTVS.JPG
    Aurelian AE Antoninianus
    IMP AVRELIANVS AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right
    MARS I-NV-ICTVS, Mars standing right, holding spear and receiving globe from Sol, standing left with whip; captive between them.
    Cyzicus
    Mintmark XXI.
    Temp 3073; RIC 358; Cohen 124; Sear 11556.
     
  16. Aleph

    Aleph Well-Known Member

    Sol or oriens of this period is sometimes associated with the emperor, right? For Martins first coin, could the reverse represent Mars giving a globe to the emperor in the guise of sol? The message would then be something like the emperor has restored the world through the favor of Mars?
     
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  17. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    On my OP coin both are depicted nude. The rule/understanding seems to be that the nude depictions are the deity themselves and if the emperor represented as deity then he is dressed. Doug and I are still debating on this "rule" when it comes to Mars in another thread. It is not really a rule, just sort of guidelines....
     
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  18. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    Great OP coin Maridvnvm, I must have missed this original post. Great portrait with a really interesting reverse. I too will be keeping my out for this type.

    @OJ: Nice pick up!!
     
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  19. Aleph

    Aleph Well-Known Member

    How should the reverse be interpreted if only the gods are involved? If Mars restores the world to Sol or vice versa, then how is this related to the Romans? It would seem more of a celestial event rather than in the realm of man. If Sol give the world to Mars, does this suggest a message of the world is restored to violence and chaos as Mars always wins in the end?
     
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  20. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    It looks to me as if Mars is receiving the globe. And if Martin's rule holds true that these are the deities themselves rather than a representation of the emperor... you would think it would be the other way around and Mars would be presenting (with his foot on) the captive because of some awesome war won. Either way, it's fun to guess what's going on here.
     
  21. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Sol can also represent Oriens.
     
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