Auction Win: Rare Vespasian denarius

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Orfew, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Just won this at auction.

    0 examples on acsearch
    0 examples on coin archives
    0 examples in CNG archives

    I saw this bare headed left facing Vespasian and knew I had to have it. It will take a position of importance in my 12 Caesars set.

    David, I hope you can tell me more about this coin. I have searched online and it seems to be quite elusive.


    Vespasian (69-79). AR Denarius (16mm, 3.24g, 6h). Rome, AD 75.

    Obv: Bare head l. R IMP CEASAR VESPASIANUS AUG

    Rev: Pax seated l., resting l. elbow on throne and holding branch.

    PON MAX TRP COS VI

    RIC II 773 (this coin); RSC –. Extremely Rare variety, near VF.

    Ex Vecchi sale 13, 1998, 757.

    Ex: St Paul Antiques auction 7 Lot 285 June 10, 2017
    VEsp 773 lot 285 st paul June 10.jpg
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Look forward to Davids reply too. Nice find. I like the portrait on it.
     
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  4. Severus Alexander

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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Not another!:spitoutdummy:

    Really nice @Orfew. You've been picking up some nice coins.
     
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  7. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Wow! That is quite an impressive catch!

    TIF is correct, in my write-up on my V853 I mentioned your new coin. Curtis seemed to have thought it read COS VII, perhaps due to a poor auction photo? Now, we can clearly see it is indeed COS VI. To my knowledge, no other specimen has surfaced and the RIC II.1 Addenda has the type still listed as R3.

    You have taught me a valuable lesson - always check out email listings of EVERY auction that arrives in my mail box. This one I did not. At any rate, I'm glad the coin found a new home where it will be appreciated. Congrats!
     
  8. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Thanks David for the kind words. I had hoped it was not you I was bidding against. I will not bid against my coin talk friends. Whoever it was also knew what the coin was because they drove up the price considerably.

    I feel very lucky to have added this one to my collection.
     
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  9. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    No, it wasn't me. I totally missed the auction.

    Enjoy the coin!
     
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  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Very impressive! I'm glad the coin found a good home!

    Here's my (considerably more common) Vespasian with the Pax reverse:

    Vespasian COS ITER TR POT denarius.jpg
    Vespasian, AD 69-79
    Roman AR Denarius; 2.73 gm; 17.7 mm
    Rome, AD 70
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, laureate head, r.
    Rev: COS ITER TR POT, Pax seated l., holding branch and caduceus.
    Refs: RIC 10D; BMCRE 26; RCV 2285
     
  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Wow, that's a very nice score. Congrats!
     
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  12. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Something about this coin looks familiar...

    Trade_Dollar Obv and Rev.jpg
     
  13. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    it do don't it
     
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  14. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Sweet find!
     
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  15. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    WOW!!

    What a super find !! Huge congrats to you @Orfew ---I love it in more ways than I can say!!
     
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  16. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    I missed this one too and would have been a strong bidder for it as well. This is a really outstanding piece! I'm glad I didn't bid you up!
     
  17. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Thanks for the kind words @Nemo

    I am very glad I did not have to bid against you or David for this one.
     
  18. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Really excellent coin. Like David, I received a few emails about this auctioneer as well recently but having never heard of them I didn't follow up. Sounds like they could be a new source for excellent material.
     
  19. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    A couple of months ago I stumbled upon this auction house on Biddr. I bid for and won a nice lifetime tet of Alexander for a very good price. In my opinion, most of their offerings are not high end. However, I think this coin proves that there are a few gems amongst the other not so spectacular coins.

    Since I did not know the auction house, I was reluctant to bid on the Alexander. However, the shipping was fast and the service good.
     
  20. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    The coin arrived today and I am very very happy. The attribution from the auction house was wrong in 2 ways. First the diameter was not 16 mm but a considerably larger 18.08 mm. the weight was not 3.24 g, it is 3.50 g.

    Just one more thing to note. The coin was in a small plastic bag between two pieces of flimsy cardboard. When I carefully cut open the taped cardboard I accidentally cut through the plastic bag. The coin fell onto my countertop.It only fell about 1 inch so it is fine, but i was worried for a second or two.

    Here is a photo of the coin in its new home, my Abafil case.

    Vespasian RIC 773 new.jpeg
     
  21. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    That is a wonderful catch and a great new picture, well done!
     
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