Auction of Rare 1799 large cent ends tonight

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  1. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

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  3. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    Check out this 1799 large cent. One of the finest known.
     
  4. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Yeah im gonna have to pass on that one... I left 20k in my other pants at home, in a dream.
     
  5. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Not from that seller. Not with stolen money. Not even in an ANACS slab.
     
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  6. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Always wanted a coin from the 1700's but I'm not selling my Jeep to get one!!! LOL!

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  7. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Pretty nice coin but what stands out to me is the seller won't ship to Australia, Spain, France or the United Kingdom, etc. but Afghanistan, for example, is not a problem?
     
  8. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    Maybe I'm a TPG snob, but a coin like that in an ANACS holder? If you plan to sell a coin for five figures, it should be in a tier one PCGS/NGC with CAC. Not that I believe that makes the coin better or worse, but it's an investment in the salability of the coin.
     
  9. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    I'll bring up old wounds. I've seen his account associated with numerous complaints. And in fact when I was looking at some coins he had - I saw that many of the bidders for his auctions have 90% or better bids - only with him. That to me screams SHILL.

    And if you look at the top 2 bidders right now, you will see that the details prove I'm right. 94% and 98% of bids with that same seller.

    SHILL!!!!

    Caveat Emptor!
     
  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Even if the coin is legit, high retail is 29,000 max.
    The "details" could cut that figure down. I don't know where
    they get this "$50,000" price from. If they are using shill
    bidders that is illegal, and not just on Flea Bay. But everywhere.
    They are hoping someone is going to try to snipe one of the shills
    and get it at a "bargain". If it was real why aren't they selling it through
    Heritage or some other legitimate auction house? If they are willing to
    sell it for half of it's expected value, ($12,100 currently) then something
    is fishy with this coin and these sellers.
     
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  11. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    Below is the history of this coin from the seller.

    THIS IS THE HISTORY OF THIS COIN:: Ex New Netherlands Coin Co. #51, 6/1958:279-Hollinbeck Coin Co., 1964 ANA Sale, Federal Brand Enterprises, lot 72-Hollinbeck Kagin Coin Co. MBS #285, 9/1969:986-Hollinbeck Kagin Coin Co.-Kagin's Numismatic Auctions #310, 10/1977:52-Kagin's-unknown-1995 ANA Sale, Heritage 8/17/1995:5582-Gary Parietti-Ronald Cooper 7/14/1996-Colonel Steven Ellsworth-2009 EAC Sale, McCawley & Grellman Auctions 4/18/2009:142

    According to Breen's Encyclopedia of early large cents this coin was listed as F-15, sharpness of a VF-25 but lightly tooled.

    This coin should be easy to trace back to ensure authenticity. If the coin is tooled, that lowers the price.

    By the way I don't know this seller nor have I bought from them.
     
  12. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    While this is true for many coins, if it is a "details" piece it might not matter as much (authenticity is likely the biggest concern and Anacs should be fine for that). Plus one can't get a CAC sticker for non-straight graded coins even in NGC/PCGS holders.
     
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  13. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    It sold for $13,599.99
     
  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Let's look on the bright side here; at least this holder is better than his own.... ;)
     
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  15. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I'm surprised he didn't crack it and give it an AU grade
     
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