ATB Quarters - portraits not authorized in the act. Yet we have them - Why?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Sundance79, Jun 27, 2017.

  1. Sundance79

    Sundance79 Active Member

    I was looking at the standards for the act authorizing the American the Beautiful quarters. Read them yourself here.

    One section says:
    Designs must not include any head-and-shoulders portrait or bust of any person, living or dead, nor can designs include a portrait of a living person. Designs must not include an outline or map of a host jurisdiction.

    So what happened with the Theodore Roosevelt National Park and the Frederick Douglass National Historic Site quarters?? Both clearly have portraits on them.
    Anyone know why this happened? Not that I disagree with having either on the coin. Although the design for the Frederick Douglass quarter has got to be one of the uglyest designs to come out of the mint since the IKE dollar.
    Answers? Comments??
     
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  3. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    I'm just guessing, but both those designs include the full body image of the two people, not a "head and shoulders or bust" design as is disallowed.
     
  4. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I'm just guessing, too, but I suspect the design selection panel did exactly as they pleased.
     
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  5. Sundance79

    Sundance79 Active Member

    Dave - you are right. They are more than just a portrait or bust like on the most of the other coinage (pennies, nickels, dimes, etc.). So I suspect the intent was since the obverse of modern coinage has a portrait or bust, they didn't want the same on the reverse. Thus having a two headed coin. (Granted there would be a different head on each side, but boy might that lead to a lot of bar room fights.)
     
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  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It's outrageous! I think @Sundance79 should demand a Total Recall, and if that doesn't work, then he should take it to a higher authority........Arnold, himself!

    Chris
     
  7. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    No, there isn't?
     
  9. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    Here it is:[​IMG]
     
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  10. Sundance79

    Sundance79 Active Member

    cpm9ball - You are so right! Congress should stop what its doing, recall the troops from the Middle East, declare marshial law and have a full investigation into this. And in the meantime recall all the coinage just as they did with gold in 1933.
     
  11. Sundance79

    Sundance79 Active Member

    So does that make the quarter with Mount Rushmore a 3 headed quarter?? (5 - if you count the workers!)
     
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I try to keep one of those on hand just in case the need arises to flip a coin. "I call heads!" "But, but, but..." "Okay, I call the side with Washington's head!"
     
  13. Sundance79

    Sundance79 Active Member

    I think in the case of the Mount Rushmore quarter, Washington is on both sides. So you could win with either side.That perhaps better than the old, "Heads I win, Tails you lose."
     
  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It's OK, no shoulders, just the heads. :)
     
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