A tips for those who are interested. A new serie arrived just on Netflix about Arminius and the revolt against Rome that led to the Battle of Teutoburg Forest. I've seen it all and I like it. The fact that the romans are speaking latin and the tribes german made it so much better for me. Check it out! I don't know much about the coinage during the period more than Augustus was emperor at the time but please post related coin to the and event and time.
Thanks for making me aware, ill be watching this in the coming weeks. I hope this is the first of many roman tv series. Why they haven't adapted the Punic wars into a tv series is beyond me...you could follow the story through the first - third Punic wars in 3-6 seasons. I know Vin Diesel has attempted to get a Hannibal movie trilogy over the line, but has been unsuccessful.
Thank you for the heads-up, @Spargrodan . More than agree, @Aetius . Here is the guy who lost the 3 Legions: RI Publius Quinctilius Varus 5-4 BCE AE20 8.0g Tetrachalkon Zeus Tyche Orontes Antioch Yr ZK RPC 4252 SNG Cop 92 And here is a Carthage Empire: Carthage Zeugitania First Punic War 264-241 BCE Double Shekel 26 mm 13.9 g Wreathed Tanit Horse stndng r star above SNG Cop 185 Rare
Season 2 should be done and called: "Roman retaliation". Beside some anachronic helmets and stirrups (!), I found it quite pleasing to see. I wish they would stick a little more to history, but hearing latin and german was a real treat anyway.
It was entertaining. A 2nd season would also allow for a confrontation against his brother Flavus under Germanicus.
Ohh I didn't know that, sounds really exciting. I don't have much problems with series and movies tweaking the history. You have to sometimes to make it work for the greater audience and make it a good fluid story. But I apreciate when they try to keep it as autentic as possible.
Overall thought it was really really good, but the battle at the end was quite lackluster. It’s the entire point of the show and lasted like 2 seconds
Do you happen to know if the Barbarians are speaking in modern High German or some re-created ancient dialect of Germanic peoples?
Unfortunately I don't know. But when I was speaking about the show with a good friend he told me that germans are learning latin in school. Not sure if it so any longer but his step father was a german interpreter. I first thought all actors had to learn latin for the show but maybe many allready knew.
The Netflix subtitles quite amusingly say "In English" when the barbarians speak... but that ain't English. Whether it's proper ancient German or not, I couldn't tell you. I will say, some of the words are familiar in a sort of "English is descended from a Germanic-French-Celtic-Saxon-Latin" orgy of etymology.
Now you guys have me really interested in this. I have studied Greek, German and Latin at the university level and absolutely love it when a movie tries to have its characters speak the language of the time period. The passion of Christ, that Mel Gibson movie of a few years back, had the soldiers and Pilate speaking Latin and they got that right. I wonder if they used Italian actors to give it that rotundity that I associate with Latin and Italian. I am not sure about the Aramaic of the Jesus and his disciples in that movie. Every time I watch Gladiator I try to figure out what that German barbarian holding up the severed head of the Roman herald is saying. It does not sound exactly like modern High German but some kind of dialect, maybe something like, "that's what happens (or what we do) to dogs". If in the Arminius movie they have actors speaking Anglo-Saxon (it is still studied at British universities) that would not be that far off for what Arminius spoke as his native language. However, his earlier service in the Roman Army would have made him conversant with, and possibly fluent in Latin as well. I have seen several programs on some cable history shows where they have characters speaking Latin but it sounds like they cannot quite figure out if they should be using the Classical (Yulious Kaisar) or the Ecclesiastical (Yulious Chaysar) pronunciation. Thanks for the heads up. Now, if I could just get this channel on my 1952 Admiral, 12 inch screen and rabbit ears antenna.
Kevin, I've watched the Gladiator about a 1/2 dozen times & I believe the German barbarian is saying "verfluchte Hunde" meaning cursed or damn dogs.
Thanks. Next time I'll try turning up my hearing aids and listen for verfluchte. That sounds reasonable in the context and of course, unless the word has not changed in the past 2,000 years, verfluchte is modern High German. I'll have to look into my Ulfilas Gothic version of the New Testament for the biblical use of cursed. Unfortunately, at my age and after decades exposed to gunfire, I have trouble understanding my neighbors.
I know what you mean by "exposed to gunfire" & hearing problems , after listening to 180 mm tank fire for 3 months in Pleiku, Viet Nam. BTW, I had an 18 month tour in Germany after my Viet Nam tour & loved the country .