Are these fingerprints?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Bart9349, Sep 1, 2012.

  1. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

    Are these fingerprints on the coin? If not, what could these lines be? This coins was graded MS 64.


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    guy
     
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  3. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

  4. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

    Here's another view:


    fingerprintsra.jpg

    If they are fingerprints, how can a coin be graded so highly? Fingerprints don't matter?

    guy
     
  5. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    It depends on what the prints do to the appearance, luster, and if they've caused any damage. It's judge much in the same way as tarnish on silver coins.

    I have a Peace dollar with a fingerprint on the obverse, and in a key focal area, but that didn't prevent NGC from giving it a 64 on the label.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Think about what you are asking Guy. First of all what can keep a coin from being graded as MS ? There's only 2 things, one is wear and the other is if the coin is a problem coin. So if neither of those is true, then the coin is at least MS something. From there you take all of the other grading criteria into account and come up with a grade.

    Grading is composed of pluses and minuses. You give the coin points for good attributes and take away points for bad attributes. Rather obviously the fingerprints are a bad attribute, but if the coins other good points are good enough then the coin could be well worthy of a 64 grade. Perhaps if the prints were not there then the coin might have graded 65.

    I'm not saying it would have necessarily, I'm not even agreeing that it is a 64, I'm just explaining how it works.
     
  7. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    They look like prints and you have already received excellent insight.
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    It could also be possible that the finger print really didn't show itself prominently until after the coin was slabed. It's sometimes amazing what can appear over the course of time.
     
  9. Atarian

    Atarian Well-Known Member

    Green that's a good point. I often wonder with recently slabbed MS coins (that I haven't sent it myself) what is going to appear over time. Who knows if someone cracked open a roll of coins and just sent them in for grading without holding them properly. Especially if whoever was going to sell them anyway...
     
  10. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

    Thanks, everyone, for the information.

    :cheers:

    I'm always impressed by the amount of knowledge without attitude shared on this forum.

    guy
     
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