I recently had a 1916-D slabbed by PCGS, graded FR02 (so I'm not rich!) and the obverse is mounted with Liberty's head straight up and down (vertical), but when I flip the holder over to the reverse, the design on the back appears to be rotated clockwise about 5 degrees. Are rotated reverses common? About how many degrees rotation does it take before collectors get excited? Or, do just a special set of collectors get excited at all? Any information will be appreciated.
I think for that coin, 5deg. rotation is a tell that is is genuine. Pretty sure anything over 15 deg. can be mentioned on a slab. 180 degrees rotation is max on premium a rotation will bring. Some coins are known 4 rotation on certain years. Hope this helps.
I would say yes some are rare ,and can be worth a lot of money depending on. the rareity rating, which means how many are around I have an 1864 two cent piece with rotation of 90 degress Cw amd a rating of , ( R1 which means about 1000 coins in exsistence) I would say the coin has to be about 90 degress CW or CCW in order for the coin to be worth a substantialy amount of money. Jazzcoins Joe :whistle::whistle::whistle:
Thanks to both of you for your replies. With only about 5 degrees of rotation I really wouldn't have noticed it but for the fact it was incased in a slab, I would have just attributed it to a probable twist when I rotated it. If anyone on this thread collects rotated coins, I would be interested in any sort of reading material on the subject. Thanks again.
One of the 1922 weak D's has a slightly rotated die and is a attribute that authenticates it. :kewl: MY 1916 Buffalo with the date doubling (not the expensiver version) has a 15 to 20 degree rotated die. So rotated dies appears to be fairly common in many denominations. :thumb: Ribbit
Some good info here, Rotated Die Coin Census , I have a 1994 Lincoln cent that is at least rotated 175 degrees.
I saw a coin on Ebay that the seller said had a 355 degree rotated die. :mouth: Talk about going in circles? Ribbit
I just found today a 1994 cent with 195 degrees of rotation. It was also my first rotation find in cents. If you want to see it I'll post pics of it. I don't plan on getting rid of it a ny time soon unless the offer is right. What might it be worth. AWWWwww, I'll post pics anyway. zg
Dang! Just 5 more degrees and he would have made it back to where he started which was probably a local Bar! Frank
Rotated Dies are actually more common than most people realize and the Mints would ever admit! To be technical, whether a coin has a rotation of even a 1/2 of a degree or 180 degrees, then it is considered to have been produced with a rotated Die. If you were to check every coin in say a $50 bag of Lincoln Cents, you would probably find that at least 50% or more of them have some amount of Die Rotation but that number may be much higher for specific years and other denominations. Some types and Series of coinage are also known to be plagued with Rotated Dies and these bring less of a premium than another type and series that has very few known Rotated Dies. Also, many Collectors don't even take notice of a Die Rotation on a coin unless it is at least 90 degrees, others 140 degrees or more but at the same time, some jump at anything over 10 degrees. Frank
