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Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Giant2789, Sep 17, 2004.

  1. Giant2789

    Giant2789 New Member

    I got these coins a while ago and my sister found the bronze one when she was in preschool in Italy (of all places). the other one i got later, i was wondering if they were anything of value.
    These are 25 ore danish coins, with a hole in the middle. They are quite interesting especially becuase on the bottom of the silver coin it says c (heart) s and the bronze colored one r (heart) b, which i thought was funny. i guess it has the initials of some kind of royalty R the IX ( i assume) and M with under it what looks like L R.

    here is a picture anyway

    thanks
    giant
     

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  3. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Despite its appearance, the 1967 coin is 4.3g of copper-nickle, KM#855.1 . The heart is the Copenhagen mint mark, the C is the initial of Mintmaster Alfred Frederik Christiansen, and the S is the initial of Moneyer (more or less analogous to the U.S. Treasurer) Harald Salomon. There were 87,468,000 25 ore coins minted in 1967 including this one and the earlier KM#850, with no hole. Krause lists the coin at 10¢ VF to $1.75 Unc.
    R is the initial of Mintmaster N. Norregard Rasmussen and B is the initial of Moneyer Frode Bahnsen. That particular combination dates the coin (I can't read the date on the dark picture attached) to the period 1982-88, and identifies it as KM#861.3, also 4.3g of copper-nickle. Krause value of 10¢ XF to 30¢ Unc. for all years; mintages from 23,370,000-53,498,000.
    KM#855.1 was minted during the reign of Frederik IX (1947-72), (please don't ask me why "R" stands for "Frederik"), and KM#861.3 during the reign of Queen Margarethe (1972-present).
     
  4. Giant2789

    Giant2789 New Member

    thanks

    thank you for all the information. I always thought it was funny how my sister found this coin at a preschool in italy. I have one more question.

    whenever i ask people what this coin is they refer to krause. I know about the book but i was wondering if there was also a website, i tried reaserching for it but found it only for sale. Is there a website where i can basically do all this stuff without bothering you guys?

    Thank you for everything,

    Giant
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Boy how I wish there was !! Unfortunately - finding information about world coins can be quite difficult. You can literally search for hours on the net and never find anything - or you may find it in 30 seconds, but that is rare.

    Using forums like this one is about the only way there is if you are not willing to purchase the books yourself. Of course - doing just that is the first suggestion I make to everyone - buy the book !! ;)
     
  6. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    I asked my contact at Krause whether one was in the works about a year and a half ago. The answer was a resounding "No way, no how, forget it, never happen!".[​IMG] The difficulty of maintaining their copyrights is obvious, but they also brushed aside the suggestion of a "pay per view" or "subscription" site, following the model of the many legal research websites most lawyers currently subscribe to.

    However, the good news is that many public libraries have at least the more commonly used Krause catalogs on their shelves, and just about any of them can get whatever volume you need through the inter-library loan system :) . The bad news is that I have never found a library that allows its Krause volume(s) to circulate, so you have to do your research at the facility :( .

    Nevertheless, IMHO [​IMG] every serious coin collector needs a library card to go with his/her loupe, scale, and measuring calipers.
     
  7. Giant2789

    Giant2789 New Member

    i figured as such it woudl be too difficult to make a webite of the book and i understand the copyrights problem.

    I read somewhere else about the library thing and i will have to try it. Thank you for telling me that i couldnt check out the book that way at least i can go there with my coins.
    thanks again

    giant
     
  8. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    Many collectors and dealers alike would love more information to be available online. There are many obscure referrence books that provide tons of good information that just aren't available. While copyright laws are a legitimate concern, at some point, these big publishers will have to drag themselves into the 21st century. (or at least I hope so)
     
  9. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    If you do decide to purchase the book, you can get it used and relatively cheap on Amazon. I have bought a number of books from there and always got great deals and service.
     
  10. rick

    rick Coin Collector

    well, I have the library card.... sounds like I need a loupe, scale, and measuring caliper now....
     
  11. Giant2789

    Giant2789 New Member

    card...mmmmm

    yes i also have a card so im going to probably try the library thing out b4 i buy the book. thanks anyways when i decide to buy the book i shall look @ Amazon.
    au revoir,
    giant



    *no im not french
     
  12. hhearst

    hhearst New Member

    Rather than a web site, is there a coin catalogue on CD or DVD/ROM that is worthwhile? Also, I have a 1997 version of the 1900+ Krause World Coin Catalogue. Do you recommend that I buy a new one? For instance, have the prices changed enought or have additional updated made this upgrade worthwhile? For the most part, I use the catalogue to identify coins and then determine if it is anything special and use the book value as a kind of guideline.

    Regards,
    - Hal
     
  13. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Never heard of any, but as a price guide they would be out of date by the time they were published, so long as the coin market keeps changing.
    Yup. There's been a ton of new coins minted and country name changes in the last eight years. Barnes & Nobel had a special going with the best price I've seen, and free shipping. If that isn't still available, a search on the internet should turn up other reasonably priced copies, or you could check EBay, Amazon, Alibris, etc., for a used copy of the 2004 31st. Under no circumstances should you waste your hard-earned money on the [​IMG] 2003 30th Ed., which had more errors than you could shake a stick at.
     
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