Has anyone ever heard of a 1922D B1 hub (early reverse-Two hill design) Peace dollar? My research has discoved that this hub was the one used to mint the highly coveted proof 22 Peace dollars -yet, I find nothing on this series (business strike) coin regarding value, or collectability?? These are so rare according to those I've spoken with, that most collectors do not know of their existance. comments appreciated.
The reverse you are speaking of was only used on the proofs. That is why there is no mention for the business strikes.
Well, according to SEGS (the research/grading/attribution guys) -that is what the coin is described as. I am still not convinced entirely that it is not a proof -but, so far, no one has come forth to imply that the Mint just may have stamped a few "D" proof coins in 22. Who knows? Which leads to my next question -how DOES anyone know??
Let me suggest that when you are doing research, that you pick better material than segs. VAM, Breen, Q. David Bowers are far better when referrencing Silver Dollars.
Interesting: I didn't know David B. did attribution? + I thought SEGS was associated with VAM varieties? You know, you would think one could simply contact the Mint and have them tell you what the heck they minted and when -but to my knowledge that is a fantacy.
Often the Mint is the last to know. Small varieties are not a concern to the mint. It is only us dealers and collectors that care about them. In years past when they were creating new dies on a regular basis, small varieties were popping up all the time. The mint is only concerned with producing large quantities of coins that can be used for commerce. Everything beyond that is a secondary thought.
Thanks for your input. It is frustrating to find a coin that in every known aspect is a proof right down to absolute proof detail -but since Peace proofs were not known to be minted in Denver -it therefore must be something else.
Studying coins have many avenues that can be frustrating. A good referrence library is a must. The ANA has many obscure books and articles on each series. An often overlooked resource!
Jeff - There is such a coin as you mention. In 1922 the Mint struck high relief Peace dollars in Proof and for circulation - 35,401 for circulation to be exact. Today there are 10 to 20 high relief Proofs known - but it was thought that all of the dollars struck for circulation were destroyed. To my knowledge only one has ever been discovered. The coin I know of was discovered and authenticated in 2001 - NGC slabbed it.
I was under the impression that particular coin was now in a proof holder? From all I have found, this particular coin falls under the same guidlines as the 1895 Morgan. Since GDJMSP has brought this up, I will look into this a little deeper. He is usually right
The coin is not from the Denver mint - it is a Philadelphia coin. Nd - Bowers mentions a solitary coin in one of his books with similar characteristics but it was in his words - ""Perhaps it is from the original business strike mintage, or it may be a Proof that was spent,". Is this the coin you are thinking of ?
That is exactly what I was referring to. I remember the 2001 coin as it made big news through the hobby. I could swear that it got cross graded into a proof holder though. Sort of the same proceedure the 1804 dollars went through. Going from MS to PR to MS and so on....
Two different coins Nd. The coin Bowers mentions was discovered back in the early '90s and graded VF30. The coin I mentioned is graded AU55. To the best of my knowledge - it has not been regraded.
Like I said, I have to look into this. You are right too often. You really should have been a coin researcher.......
Well you have one of the best coin memories of anyone that I have met. I am really looking forward to the return of your site. I rely more on my library than memory. A mountain of knowledge at my fingertips.
There may yet be hope - got a techie coming to visit tomorrow to try and get my main box back in working order
