Hello all, I was wondering if there are any Medieval Gold coin (Ducat) collectors out there on this forum. I have a nice collection and a few duplicates to trade etc... Let's talk.
I used to collect medieval gold, specialized in Netherlands ducats. Take a look at my albums sometime
I do collect Medieval gold, but a bit earlier than the above pieces. Mine are Scottish and English though.
Thalerking ... I wouldn't consider those coins medieval; but yes I am also a collector of medieval gold
Some nice coins there indeed. While I would not call them medieval either (here in Europe the term Middle Ages is usually used for the time until about 1500), those sure are attractive! Christian
I agree with you completely, however I am having a **** of a time with the photo insert software on the site. Mazbe its me the operator or this software has a mind of its own. Either way I will try and post some other photos of Medieval gold. Thanks,
Noble or 6/8 or 80 Pence Inasmuch as a Scot would loathe using an Anglish coin to illustrate history, unfortunately I hae to hide under the guise of economy and use a similar piece issued by Edward III to illustrate what the David II noble would have looked like. Only four original nobles of David's gold coinage are presently known, most in museums. He modelled his coinage on that of Edward III though. Really aside from the monarch's name, and the Scottish shield with the King, the only difference was the Latin legend DEVS PROTECTOR MEVS ET LIBERATOR MEVS or God is my protector and liberator, closely matching the Anglish POSVI DEVM ADIVTOREM MEVM or I have made God my helper.
Lurking behind the curtains, poping up wherever world gold post appear Doug, I've been busy .... I still have to work for a living LOL
Just curious Christian. What term is used then from 1500 to the advent of mechanical minting? "Early medieval", (former dark age), is from about 500 to 1000? Or is it 800? I am simply curious as to the terminology of the ages. I have some from 500 to about 1400 or so simply do to them being either related to Byzantium or them being Central Asian. My study of European coins typically ends around 500 most times, and I confess my ignorance as to terminology of the later eras. Chris
In German we have the term "Frühe Neuzeit" (literally "Early New Time") or "Frühmoderne" - that would be the time roughly between the end of the 15th century and the end of the 18th century. In English that is the "Early Modern" period as far as I know. Decisive elements when it comes to the end of the Late Middle Ages are usually the Spanish and Portuguese "discoveries" in the New World, Gutenberg's printing technology, and the Lutheran Reformation. Other possible "markers" are the beginning Renaissance and the siege of Constantinople. Between (again roughly) 600 and 1000 we have the Early Middle Ages. Starting points can be the beginning of the Lombard rule in Italy, the death of Justinian; or maybe Greek becoming the "official" language in Byzantium. But it is difficult, basically impossible, to draw a line that applies to all of Europe ... Christian
Yeah, yeah - a likely excuse. You forget pal, all those years I used to work 12-16 hr days and still I found time for this. I think your wife has just cut you off, that's what it is. Cut ya off from coins
Ask 10 people and you'll probably get about 7 different answers. And not a one of them will be right, or wrong. Over the years we've had several discussions on the forum about this subject, some of them rather lengthy. But there has never been a consensus and I doubt there ever will be. For me personally I break it down kind of like this. The Ancient Period - 700 BC to about 400 AD. The Dark Ages period - fall of the Roman Empire (about 400 AD) to the time of Charlemagne (about 900 AD). The medieval period - Charlemagne to the advent of milled coinage (1643). The Colonial period - 1643 to the early 1900's. Early Modern period - early 1900's to 1964. Modern period - 1965 to date.
I agree various countries would tend to classify the ages of Mankind in different ways, however, nobody so far has mentioned the Renaissance (the Rebirth) , which is a well accepted and well defined period signaling the end of the Middle Ages. FWIW, as taught in schools in Germany, the ages are: Ancient times - up to about 500 a.d Middle ages - up to about the 1480's (marked by the Fall of Contantinople, Discovery of America, Guttemberg etc) Renaissance - 1500-1600's Baroque - 1600 - 1750 Classical - 1750- 1800 The Romantic Age -1800 to ? 1900(?) Onwards - Modern times As I said, this is when looked at from the Middle European (german) perspective.
Interesting. Personally for European numismatics, (as ages are always relative to cultures), I would go ancient up to Anastasius' reforms in the 490's, Dark Age or early medieval from 490 to 800 when Charlemagne was crowned, 800 to 1450 as variously named medieval periods, 1450 to around 1700 as Renaissance?, then 1700 to now as "current". I know, its completely made up by me, but numismatially seems to break down coins into similar groups. This is just my perspective from a collector. Its pretty close to a lot of yours, but I can really see how most collectors would not quite agree.
Coming back to coins, here are some late middle ages/renaissance issues. These are Goldgulden (Dukats), one from Brandenburg Franken minted around 1480, and a dated goldgulden (1507) for Nürnberg.
