what do you mean does the other side have a presidents head i don't see any signs on the front of there being a clash. if it were a clash would the inside of the rays be elevated like seen in the first picture?
I think awordcreated is dead on the money. Check the obverse and look at this link. This clash looks very similar to the first image. http://maddieclashes.com/tdc-25c-2008-01nm.html
thank you both. I understand now the question and thanks for the link. there is still no evidence on the obverse of the clash which Is why I didn't see it. however I grabbed some others I have and noticed marks on the obverse that I did not know was there before. I guess it helps to check BOTH sides of the coin. talk about a noob mistake