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  1. Bojan

    Bojan Well-Known Member

    I found very nice coin with all details. Is this antoninus pius and roma sitting ?
    antoninus pius a  15.12.2018.jpg antoninus pius b 15.12.2018.jpg
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's Elagabalus, who had two main varieties of obverse legend: one derived from IMP CAES M AVR AVR ANTONINVS P F AVG by contraction or omission; the other is ANTONINVS PIVS FELIX AVG.

    It's easy to distinguish his coins from Antoninus Pius, who is an older, bearded man:

    Antoninus Pius Annona Sestertius.jpg

    It's harder to distinguish his coins from those of Caracalla, because his portrait may look similar. However, note:

    Titles beginning IMP CAES AVR are either very early in Caracalla's reign, and therefore have the head of a young boy, or belong to the first half of Elagabalus' reign, in which case the portrait shows a youth of about eighteen.

    Moreover, Caracalla did not use the legend ANTONINVS PIVS FELIX AVG.
     
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  4. Bojan

    Bojan Well-Known Member

    then why is on coin described imp antoninus avg? what is that meaning?
    thx for answer
     
  5. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    That was his name! There were three with that name, the other is Caracalla.
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    @Bojan: That coin does not look right to me. I can't condemn it out of hand, but the portrait looks all wrong to me.
     
  7. naser77

    naser77 New Member

    Widget me.Elagabalus
     
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  8. naser77

    naser77 New Member

    Elagabalus 218-222
     
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  9. Bojan

    Bojan Well-Known Member

    I dont know what you mean. But I dont buy coin just searching with metal detector. all this is last month. probably I will have some more question later for some coins 11.jpg
     
  10. naser77

    naser77 New Member

    Beautiful Romans
     
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  12. Bojan

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  14. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great find with a metal detector. I agree that the portrait of the OP coin looks a bit off, but on the other hand if you dug it out of the ground it is probably not a fake.
     
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  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I'm most probably wrong @Bojan, but when portraits are compared, perhaps you can see where I'm coming from:
    antoninus pius a  15.12.2018.jpg RIC_0012.jpg
     
  16. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

    It was often with Roman emperors to take on formal names from previous emperors when they came to power as a way to associate themselves with the previous emperor. Both Caracalla (his nickname based off the name for a popular hooded cloak of the time, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla#names) and Elagabalus (his priest name based on the name of the sun god he worshiped, sometimes also referred to as Heliogabalus, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus) were formally Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus.

    There was a lot of power in a name back then.
     
  17. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Cool! I see a Vespasian, Septimius Severus and wifey Julia domna to name a few. Please share all your finds:)
    I love looking at metal detector finds. I go out with my detector when it's not too cold. But living in Utah, the oldest things I've found are wheat pennies and mercury dimes. The coolest thing I've found is a token for a pack of cigarettes from the 40s or 50s...
    And thanks for sharing so far:woot:
     
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  18. Bojan

    Bojan Well-Known Member

    I look for my coins and found more couple coin with antoninus is this all elagabelus ? All face was diferent and with my phone camera is not very good picture. ANTONIN A.jpg ANTONIN B.jpg 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg 5.jpg
     
  19. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    I would guess some are Caracalla. I thought my Elagabalus was Caracalla for over a year until one of my CT friends pointed it out and corrected me. You may want to look them up on AC search.
     
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  20. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing

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  21. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Here is my Elagabalus:
    CollageMaker Plus_20184615947835.png

    Elagabalus
    AR Denarius AD 218-222.
    Rome, AD 221/2. IMP
    ANTONINVS PIVS AVG,
    laureate and draped bust of
    Elagabalus right. Reverse
    ABVNDAN-TIA AVG,
    Abundantia standing facing,
    head left, emptying contents
    from cornucopiae; in right
    field, star. RIC 56; BMC 189;
    RSC 1a. Boldly struck
    And here is young Caracalla:
    CollageMaker Plus_201861211138953.png
    Caracalla
    198-217AD
    SilverDenarius (2.91 gm)
    RomeMint
    Obv:ANTONINVSPIVSAVG
    ;Laureatedrapedbustright.
    Rev:FELICITASAVGG
    ;Felicitas standingleft,holding
    caduceus &cornucopia.
    RIC IV 127 ; RSC 64

    ...not so easy to tell apart without doing some research...
     
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