Antiochos VIII---Tetradrachm

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  1. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Although I'm not a big fan of the later generations of the successors to Alexander, I do LOVE big silvery Tets, especially when they are well centered, relatively high-grade and artistically rendered. So, after a few offers and counter offers, I was able to purchase this lovely coin from HHC at a fair price. With the exception of the link below, I'll skip the history of the Seleucids, allowing anyone interested to google at their leisure. I will note that his nickname of 'Grypos' or hooked-nosed appears well warranted---and a bit of an overbite as well :eek::D

    http://www.seleucid-genealogy.com/Antiochus_VIII.html

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    SELEUCID EMPIRE. Antiochos VIII Epiphanes (Grypos). 121/0-97/6 BC. AR Tetradrachm (29mm, 16.39 g, 1h). Antioch on the Orontes mint. 1st reign at Antioch, circa 121/0-113 BC. Diademed head right / Zeus Ouranios, draped, standing left, holding star and scepter; to outer left, IE above A; AI in exergue. SC 2298.1d; HGC 9, 1197 e. Good VF, minor double strike on reverse.

    Please feel free to PILE ON:)
     
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  3. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Very nice! Sadly I do not have this guy. Some "tet" relatives though?

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    Seleucid Kingdom, Demetrios I Soter, 162-150 BC
    AR tetradrachm, 16g, 32mm; Antioch mint, 162-155 BC
    Obv.: Diademed head of Demetrios I right within wreath.
    Rev.: Tyche, holding scepter and cornucopia, seated left on throne supported by tritonesses right, monogram to outer left. In two vertical lines, BAΣIΛEΩΣ ΔHMHTPIOY (King Demetrios)

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    Antiochus VII Euergetes, Seleucid Kingdom, BC 138-129
    AR, tetradrachm, 16.59g, 30mm; 12h; Antioch
    Obv.: Diademed head of Antiochus VII right
    Rev.: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY EVEPΓETOY; Athena Nikephoros standing left; to outer left, monogram above A; all within wreath.

    I really love these coins.
     
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Spectacular! I have a tet with Antiochus VIII and his mama!

    Cleopatra Thea Antiochus VIII.jpg
    Cleopatra Thea, Queen of Syria, with son Antiochus VIII.
    AR tetradrachm.
    15.85 gm. 27 mm.
    Antioch mint, 125-121 B.C.E.
    Obv: Jugate busts, r.
    Rev: ΒΑΣΙΛΙΣΣΗΣ ΚΛΕΟΠΑΤΡΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ, Zeus Nikephoros seated l., holding lotus-tipped scepter; IE outer left, A under throne.
    Refs: SNG Spaer 2437; c.f. Sear 7135. Ex-Henry Clay Lindgren.
     
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  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh sweet, what a pretty coin MZ! great details and the the guy sturck it like he meant it. a little bit of double struck legends going on also?

    here's my only seleucid tet...

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    SELEUKID KINGS OF SYRIA. Philip I Philadelphos, 95-83 BC. Tetradrachm. Antioch.

    O: Diademed head right. R: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ ΕΠIΦΑΝΟΥΣ ΦIΛΑΔΕΛΦΟΥ. Zeus seated left with Nike and sceptre: Control: monogram. SNG Israel 2799. Condition: Very fine. Weight: 15.7g. Diameter: 26 mm.
     
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  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Yes, you are absolutely right....but very minor in my eyes and I think it adds to the allure of the coin.

    Thanks for all the kind comments.....Terrific posts everyone!!

    I'll wait a bit and then post a few of my other Tets---not quite as nice as the OP but I love 'em anyway.....;)
     
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  7. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Oh how about the same coin, minted semi-autonomously, some 60 years later?

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    Philip I Philadelphos, semi-autonomous city issue of Antioch
    AR, tetradrachm, 26mm, 12h; Antioch mint 46/5 BC or later
    Obv.: Diademed head left
    Rev.: ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΦΙΑΠΠΟV ΕΠΙΦΑΝΟVΣ ΦΙΛΑΔΕΑΦΟV; Zeus Nikephoros seated left holding spear in left hand holding victory presenting laurel wreath in right; AYT monogram to inner left, date in exergue (off flan)

    That coin is a real pleasure to hold too!
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  9. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A excellent example!
     
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  10. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice tets, I do not collect Seleukids, but I see why you captured these.
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Very NICE... wow, lotsa detail. Double strike is cool... deflates Zeus's head a bit to control his ego! :D
     
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  13. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I would love to get the whole dynasty if possible eventually.
     
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  14. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    AWESOME coin, I love it! I'm surprised I haven't seen more Seleukid stuff in my time here (but that's not even two months, so I probably missed a lot). I mean, awesome portraits of historically significant men & women... what's not to like??

    My Seleukid tets:
    Antiochos I, 281-261 BC (I love the forlorn look on his portraits):
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    Antiochos III, "The Great", 222-187 BC (hosted the fugitive Hannibal and still lost badly to Rome; not so "Great" maybe):
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    Antiochos VII (fielded the last great Seleukid army, but was defeated and killed by the Parthians):
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  15. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    Awesome coin @Mikey Zee!! I don't have and example of Antiochos VIII yet but I got a few other Seleukid tets I can share.
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    Seleukos I Nikator. 312-281 BC.
    AR Tetradrachm (27.5mm, 17.02 g). In the name and types of Alexander III of Macedon. Babylon II mint. Struck circa 311-300 BC. Head of Herakles right, wearing lion skin / Zeus Aëtophoros seated left; in left field, anchor and monogram; M below throne.
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    Antiochos VII 138-129 BC
    AR Tetradrachm (29.86mm, 15.75g) Diademed head right. / BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY EYEΡΓETOY, Athena standing left,
    holding Nike & spear, & resting on shield; monogram over A at
    left, Φ at Athena's right.
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    Seleukos II Kallinikos. 246-225 BC.
    AR Tetradrachm (27mm, 16.39 g). Sardes mint. Struck circa 246-245/2 BC. Diademed head right, with curly sideburn / Apollo standing left, testing arrow and leaning on tall tripod; monograms to inner left and inner right.
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    Philip I Philadelphos
    AR Tetradrachm (26mm, 15.43g). Antioch mint, struck ca 89-83 BC. Diademed head right / BAΣIΛEΩΣ ΦIΛIΠΠOY EΠIΦANOYΣ ΦIΛAΔEΛΦOY, Zeus seated left, holding Nike and lotus-tipped sceptre in left; monogram beneath throne, N in exergue; all within wreath.
    That's what I want to try to do as well. Your Demetrios tet is sweet!
     
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  16. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Does that include the usurpers?
     
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  17. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    What a beautifull sharp coin, lots of eye appeal, congrats Mikey

    Got a couple of his ancestors:

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  18. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    WOW!!!

    What an incredible series of posts!!

    Crap, now I caught the @Jwt708 urge to collect the entire dynasty....

    My more modest examples:

    Silver-Tetradrachm of Antiochos VII. (Euergetes) 138-129 BC., from Antioch mint in Syria. Av. diad. head right Rv. Athena standing left, holding spear and shield; weight is 15,90gr. BMC 13

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    Silver-Tetradrachm of Antiochos III., 223-187 BC., Antioch mint in Syria. Av. diad. head of the king right Rv. Apollo seated left on Omphalos, holding arrow and bow; weight is 16.03gr. BMC 25

    Antiocus III Tet.JPG Antiochus II reverse.JPG
     
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  19. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Yes!
     
  20. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    You're a closer than I am! But I have a side set in bronze. You and I are kindred spirits in our approach to collecting, I think.
     
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  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Holy smokes, Mikey-Z ... congrats on scoring that fantastic AR-OP-Antiochos

    => cha-ching!!

    Hmmm, all I have to add to this thread is a few AE additions ... *sigh*

    Oh well => here are my three Antiochos bronze bros ...


    "I"
    Seleukid Kingdom Antiochos I.jpg


    "VI"
    Antiochos VI Dionysos.jpg


    "VIII"

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