I am now the proud owner of two Triens scale weights. The first one arrived last month - My first Roman Triens (4 dot) scale weight | Coin Talk Holding two 100+ gram scale weights is pretty neat! I think the 4 dot weight is older. It looks like a common coin from the Roman Republic. The cross on the round weight indicates it is more recent. I bought the second from Harlan Berk's web inventory. I found it when I searched for Roman / Byzantine scale weights. It was unsold in 2 previous auctions, but was not in recent bid or buy sales. Can anyone here make Bφ equal 4 or 24 in any Byzantine numbering system? Byzantine Round Commercial Bronze Weight; 4-Ounces (Triens) or 24-Nomismata / Solidii; 6th-7th cent. AD Obv: Engraved letters Bφ with inlaid silver, engraved cross above and eight-pointed star below; all within dotted border. The letters Bφ on the obverse are presumably private ownership initials. Rev: Blank apart from central hole. VF 105g. Unpublished in the standard references. For comparable Byzantine 4-ounce weights which were however government issues, see · S. Bendall, Byzantine Weights, An Introduction (1996), 131; · J. Forien de Rochesnard, Album des poids antiques III, p. 57; · M. Campagnolo, M. Weber, and F. Weber, Poids romano-byzantins en alliage cuivreux (2015), 37-8.. · pondera.uclouvain.be – 68 4 oz weights, 15 are bronze truncated spheres. Unsold in two auctions: · Gemini, LLC Auction XIII, lot 377; 06.04.2017 · HJB Buy or Bid Sale 213, lot 463; 19.11.2020