Anonymous Bronzes

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  1. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    A few months ago I put together a presentation for my coin club on Anonymous Bronzes. I posted a link on another thread, but thought I would post here to find it more easily:

    http://home.comcast.net/~wdaehn/TCACC/OtherDocs/AnonByzBronze.pdf

    Here is the link to all of the articles the club has online:

    http://home.comcast.net/~wdaehn/TCACC/index_files/Page430.htm

    I also have a hunnic one I did a couple of years back that will be on the website shortly.

    Btw, thanks to @dougsmit for reading my attempt on Byzantine Bronzes and giving me some advice. I appreciated it.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Very nice presentation, medman! I read it after seeing it posted elsewhere.
     
  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Your coin club member Stephen Antonello sure has some exceptionally nice Nabataeans-- @John Anthony, check it out if you haven't already.
     
  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Some good articles there. Actually liked yours best, Chris. Still hope to get more into byzantines this year but I am currently enjoying Tetradrachms.

    Surprised to see Thomas Barbeau. He's a regular on our facebook group.
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    They are indeed a handsome set, but the article does not say whether the coins are in his collection or not.
     
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    He owns them. Its a side little set for him, not a main interest. He is good friends with one of our most important members, the one who passes around gXF lifetime portrait JC for us to see, and has the greatest, in not the world, certainly in the US, collection of Roman Egypt coins.

    Its a fun group. Too bad everyone on CT cannot be there every month. Some very serious collections, along with serious expertise like Bill Daehn, (he wrote the recent new standard on numismatic literature printed by CNG), and some others like me who have their tiny little holdings.

    Btw, I used pics from the internet in my presentation for the coins. I actually own better examples of every coin, but my photograph skills are lacking.
     
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  8. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    I found out there is a coin club in my city, but no one collects ancients, apparently.
     
  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Well bully for him then! Or...get off my turf.

    One of those two. :p
     
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  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I have the ACCLA, Ancient coin club of Los Angeles, but its more then an hours drive each way, so its a hassle, especially our freeways, at night no less :spitoutdummy::dead:.
     
  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Lol, he has had this collection for many years before you had even heard of the Nabateans. I did direct him to your site. :)
     
  12. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    super summation of the anonymous byzantines, i have such a hard time keeping them straight.
     
  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice => that's a very cool link, medoraman => ummm, but I'm unsure whether my humble example is an A2 or an A3?

    Anonymous Folles, Basil II & Constantine VIII Æ26 (Class A3)
    Constantinople mint
    circa 1020-1028
    Diameter: 26 mm
    Weight: 7.04 grams
    Obverse: Facing bust of Christ Pantokrator
    Reverse: Legend in four lines; ornament above and below


    Anonymous Folles basil II & Constantine VIII Krist.jpg


    ... thanks again for the very cool article (cheers, my awesome coin-friend)
     
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  14. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I would call yours an A3 variant due to the weight, unless the coin was massively clipped which would not be common for copper coins at all. Even for an A3 its a little light. I have seen a few variants on A3's on decoration, I should have mentioned it in the paper, sorry. The split between the A2 and A3 is really more a delineation of coins produced early and late in a reign, and as such massive overlapping variations should be expected. If I were to do it, I would have called both A2's and simply noted light and heavy versions. Two separate "classes" I do not believe are called for.

    Once you hold an A2 in your hand you will never confuse an A1 or A3 for it. Its a massive coin, nearly as large as those year 12 Justinian's. It also weighs over twice as much as your specimen Steve. I am like many others, really liking the size. Even though they are relatively common, they always sell for a premium due to their popularity, kind of like the Justinian issues. I wish I was good at photography, since one of mine has a full quarter inch of space between the design and the edge of the coin, and weighs 21 grams and 36mm. Its a monster, and even though I know how common they are, is a favorite of mine.
     
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