Annual UNC Dollar Coin Set

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by jaceravone, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    Well as all of you know, the mint decided not to produce any proof or (W) unc ASEs last year. In doing so, there was one set in particular that was not produced and that was the Annual Uncirculated Dollar Coin Set. I was just looking at my 2007 and 2008 sets tonight and was thinking what a shame of a missed opportunity.

    The first thing that came to mind was the word "ANNUAL" which is in the title of the product. Well obviously, you can't call it annual anymore. Kinda tough to call something annual when you start skipping years here and there...don't you agree?

    Also, didn't mint make a gazillion bullion ASEs last year??? Ok, maybe not a gazillion, but they did sell nearly 29 million of these things last year. I would have still bought the set if they just substituted the W ASE for the bullion one. Heck, I don't think anyone would have noticed. The bullion ASE is still considered Uncirculated in the purest of terms anyway.

    Lastly, the mint could have at least still made the set, but chose to keep out the ASE. Now if the mint decides to make this set next year, we are missing a year. I don't care about the ASE, but we will be missing the 4 prez dollars and the new sac.

    Either you collect the set or you don't. But now the series is dead. Even if the mint picks up next year, I will not continue the series because it won't be complete. And not because I don't have the ASE for 2009, but I don't have the other 5 coins in set either. Maybe it wasn't a big seller and the mint felt this would be a good time to ax the set. Who knows.

    This is one set that I definitely felt had options to continue and the mint passed up on those. The mint has used bullion ASEs in sets before, they could have surely done it again.
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Feel the pain Joe. The mint hiccups a year and everybody is ready to trash the series. I'm really PO'd that they didn't make the '09's but that won't stop me from collecting the series if the Mint decides to continue it. Know what I did the other day(week)? I bought two of those '08 sets which of course you know are still available at the mint website. I was so starved for '09's that I did little extra purchasing. Had it in the back of my head that maybe I'd score an '08 with an '07 reverse. Dream on. However, I did wind up with a "Jackson" grease filed die example in one of the sets. Fun stuff.

    Bottom line....I'll continue on. After all, I'm just a "modern" guy.....:D
     
  4. I did the same thing and of course no luck on getting the '08 with an '07 reverse. I have never heard anyone finding one in that set but thought it was worth a shot. If they produce the annual set this year, I will likely but it even with the gap last year. I really like the presentation of the set. TC
     
  5. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

    I was talking to a dealer about a month (ish) ago and he told me what he thought was funny was that they stopped making them in 09 but will be coming out with a 5 oz silver coin this year. (not sure how true that is however I will take his word since he is reputable in my area.)

    Edit: I just looked at the mints website for 2008 Uncirculated Coin set and they aren't going to ship them until 02/11/2010...I wonder if if this is due to a high demand of people buying them. I state that because I bought a second set on the 20th of Jan and shall be receiving it this week.
     
  6. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    I agree that they have killed the term "annual", but your set would still be complete - it would consist of all coins minted that fit your criteria.

    I can still put together a "complete" run of proof sets, even though they didn't make them from 1943-1949 and from 1965-1967.
     
  7. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    You beat me to it. Complete doesn't mean year for year. It means, like is mentioned above, all that is issued. If a year isn't issued, that doesn't make a set not complete. Almost every single series of US coin I can think of doesn't consist of a year for year run, and yet the sets are considered complete when all issuing pieces are collected.
    Guy~
     
  8. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    I agree 100% that a missed issued coin or item doesn't necessarily make it incomplete, but I would have to disagree in this situation. You can't go around and call a project or item annual when you start skipping years. Also, having all 6 coins in this set makes the set what it is. Missing those six coins for that years makes the entire set incomplete. And its not because they didn't have the coins....because they did.....they just didn't make the set. You can argue and say, Well they didn't make the ASE W so they couldn't keep the set complete as intended, but I would disagree. They had other options such as using the bullion coin or not even including it all together. You don't collect the presidential coins and skip four presidents and call it a complete set. And comparing this to any coin series where years were skipped is comparing apples to oranges. These coins were made....just not placed into this separate collection. Two different things.
     
  9. holz

    holz holz

    Removed from web site

    Saw another thread and spoke of no more 2008 W ASE sets. Must of hit 100,000 sold
     
  10. kidkayt

    kidkayt Senior Member

    I picked up 5 of these sets last week. Wondering if I shoul dkeep them as is or open them and check out the coins inside for surprises...???
     
  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Please do open them and tell us if you do receive any suprises..I didn't get any with mine....:)
     
  12. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

    Kidkayt when you mentioned opening them up for surprises are they in a see through plastic? You are referring to the the set with the eagle in the middle, surrounded by 4 1 dollar president coins and the Sac. Dollar correct? What kind of surprises would one be looking for? (I know that sounds silly.. I am coming up with a few things but wanted to see if I was correct before I said anything)
     
  13. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member


    As with any set like that, physically holding the coins is impossible. But you can still look at the coins for any strike throughs, doubled dies, repunched mint marks, clashed dies, etc, etc. Even with the presidential dollars, the rims are exposed, so you can see if the lettering is even there or not.

    Been my experience that these sets are put together with a bit more care than maybe a proof or unc set, but the chance for error or variety coins is still high.
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I think he's referring to the cellophane that seals the entire set.
     
  15. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Thats alot, How much will they be worth in the future??
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I'm not sure, I'd have to go looking for press releases, but I thought when they announced the trimming of the mint's list of offerings back in 2008, the Annual dollar set was on the drop list due to poor sales.
     
  17. kidkayt

    kidkayt Senior Member

    Yes I was referring to the cellophane wrap on the outside of the folder. I will not remove the coins from the folder itself. As far as surprises I believe that someone found a dollar in the set without edge inscription. And there is always the possibility that an 08/07 ASE may have made its way into the set. Yes I do agree about the strike throughs. I did find a Jefferson dollar in my uncirculated set which has a very nice strike through arcing across the forehead and projecting above the bust to the rim like a unicorn hair. I've saved this one!
     
  18. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I was gonna argue with ya until I stopped to think the the Millenium Set had a bullion coin in it!

    I was also going to state that they could not sell the "bullion" coins since those had to go to one of their 14 "official" distributors but evidently that didn't stop them in 2000 either.

    The more I think about it, the more it angers me that the current Mint Director is all about "the current Mint Director" and simply does not have a clue about anything! All the baloney and reterick regarding coin collecting is just that, meaningless baloney and I for one will not mourn when he eventually loses his job. I also won't listen to his stupid pitch to buy gold on those TV spots when those eventually roll around either!

    Go Home Mr. Moy!
     
  19. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    As for error's, some if these sets have the Missing Edge Lettering Monroe's and JQ Adams coins.

    These two coins will surely hold their value over the years.

    From one of the sets I purchased I pulled out a minor strike through SAE but other than that, nothing.

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  20. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member


    THere were two sets that the mint used a bullion coin....can you name the other? :)

    Hint: If you go to my main page, you will see the coin it was paired with....one of my all time favorite coins.
     
  21. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I liked the annual dollar sets too. I had gotten and 08 and planned on gettin an 07 but gave up. maybe Ill just one here or there if they continue the series, but i'm not really gona collect them now.
     
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