Annamese coinage

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  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Here is one of mine...

    Annam
    Nguyén Dynasty
    Duc Tông 1847-83

    AV Tién 22mm. 3.54g. 12h

    Please add your Annam coins 7da76c4d59c9b9d30b75a48fecbaf4c8.jpg
     
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  3. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    What modern country contains the territory of Annam? Assuming Annam was a country or kingdom...

    John
     
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  4. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    French Indochina, now the central region of Vietnam. :cigar: Love the coin! :D
     
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  5. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Here is another....from same Dynasty
    Thànth Tô 1820-41
    AV 1 1/2 Téin ND
    5.74g. 22mm. 4h 4503a60b12ab6bf77f342bd02249af4a.jpg
     
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  6. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    It was a French Protectorate, but not exactly Indochina, until later. It was just that the people were referred to as Annamites, because of the mountains. It was always the central region. as was south Cochinchina and north Tonkin. The coinage of each area is different. That particular piece seems to indicate the Emperor Phuc family. A private issue? My guess is yes.
    I don't know stuff, though. She told me. Please send her a very strongly worded letter if it is wrong.
     
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  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Well, with coins of Emperor Phuc you can't go wrong.
     
  8. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    Wanted one of these since I saw it on the cover of a coin catalog back in the late 70s.

    Annam - 7 Tien, 1834

    Annam 7 Tien 1834 obverse-side.jpg
     
  9. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    That was good. And funny. And, when one thinks about it, true.
    Good job!
     
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  10. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Nice coin.
     
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  11. mrbadexample

    mrbadexample Well-Known Member

    I like how you stick to one type of coin and don't diversify at all. :woot:
     
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  12. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    More coinage of Minh Mạng Thông Bảo. The craftsmanship on Minh Mạng Thông Bảo (1820-1841) issues was consistently high.

    Vietnam Annam Minh Mang 1820-41 Phan obv-side.jpg

    This one is a large coin with the value of 60 văn. Not a common coin so I have my doubts on it's authenticity, but if it is a forgery, it is very well done. It is listed in Dr R Allan Barker's "The Historical Cash Coins Of Việt Nam" as #144.

    Obverse - Minh Mạng thông bảo
    Reverse - Lục phủ khổng tu, tam sự doãn trị

    Annam Lục phủ khổng tu, tam sự doãn trị obverse less 5-side.jpg
     
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  13. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Really nice examples posted! I especially like the "running dragon" crowns.

    This is a coin that I bought at my local coin shop in San Jose back in the mid-80s, when it was located in a very small shop on kind of seedy commercial area near the county hospital. Later the dealer moved to a more up-scale area in Willow Glen.

    This coin, although I don't have any documentation, was formerly sold to the shop's owner by M. Louis Teller, a well known world coin dealer located in LA. They're still in operation.

    This is a half tael or 5 Tien of Minh Mang, 1820-1841. Unlike the running dragon on the larger denomination, here the dragon is facing, curling around the sun.

    I've noticed that these larger silver coins generally don't have a lot of wear, suggesting that they mostly saw little circulation.

    This coin is Schroeder 188 and Davenport 113.

    19.4 grams

    D-Camera Annam half tael or 5 tien Minh Mang 1820-41 19.4g ex Teller d-113 km 188 2-23-22.jpg
     
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  14. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

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  15. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    Tự Đức - 3 Tien

    Vietnam Annam Tu Duvc 3 Tien 848-83 rev-side.jpg
     
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  16. jgenn

    jgenn World Crown Collector

    I suggest that we refer to these as coins of Vietnam. In the early 19th Century the independent empire of the Nguyen dynasty was called "Nam Viet", "Viet Nam" and "Dai Nam". Increasing French influence undermined the empire's independence and after 1845 the name "Annam" was used for the French protectorate followed by "French Indochina" when the French consolidated their rule in 1887. While it's not technically wrong to call the coins minted in Vietnam after 1845 as coins of "Annam" or "French Indochina" from 1887, they remain stylistically the same as those minted during the earlier, independent period. The coins minted in Paris for circulation in French Indochina are in a different category.
     
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  17. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Annam sounds so much more romantic:happy:
     
  18. jgenn

    jgenn World Crown Collector

    But if you were Vietnamese, what would you prefer? A good parallel is what we consider to be coins of Canada.
     
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  19. Croatian Coin Collector

    Croatian Coin Collector Well-Known Member

    I don't have any, they cost way too much.
     
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  21. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Well, my Country (Germany) for example/ I was born in the Júlich. I have coins struck from that Herzogtum (Duchy) 1350-1711. These are not German coins but either Júlich-Cleves-Berg/ Júlich-Berg/ Júlich-Cleves/
    Thus there are thousands of coin issueing states under board banner of German States/ 20% of Friedberg is for gold from these States.
     
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