ANCIENTS - The rest of the Emperors

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Diocletian and Maximianus Herculius abdicated as emperors after having been in charge of the empire for many years.

    The following coin was one of a range produced to commemorate this retirement and is a relatively scarce one in the series. It arrived on the doormat this morning.

    I have a soft spot for these coins as senior Augusti.

    Diocletian Follis
    Obv:– D N DIOCLETIANO P F S AVG, Laureate bust right, wearing imperial mantle, holding olive branch in right hand and mappa in left
    Rev:– QVIES AV-GVSTORVM, Quies standing facing, head left, holding branch in right hand and leaning on scepter in left hand.
    Minted in Trier (S-C//PTR). c. Summer A.D. 307
    Reference:– RIC VI Trier 713 (R)

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    Does anyone else have any Senior Augustus coins to share?
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I don't have any, but I would love to have one like yours. That coin is well centered.
     
  4. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    What a awesome coin to find on your doormat. great color and centering, i don't have one, but will be on the lookout...;)
     
  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hey Martin, I only have one coin from each of these two rulers ... and I doubt that they fit in your category, but I'm gonna post 'em "just in case" ...

    Diocletian
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    Maximianus
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  6. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Steve,
    Your lovely coins are from the period when the emperors were busy with the burdons of rule. My example aludes to them passing on these burdons to their successors and moving on to a more restful period of their lives where Diocletian retired to his purpose build palace and spent his days in the gardens whilst watching the Tetrarchy falling apart around him. Hi died (possibly commited suicide) in December A.D. 311.
    Martin
     
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  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I figured as much ...

    Umm, how can a person distinguish between a workman's coin and a retired coin?

    o_O
     
  8. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Dio was probably a republican at heart.[​IMG]
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  9. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    The legends read P F S AVG (S = SENIORES) rather than P F AVG.
     
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks ... that's very interesting
     
  11. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Is that what you're wanting to see Martin ?

    [​IMG]Maximianus, Abdication Follis
    Serdica mint, 1st officina, AD 305-306
    DN MAXIMIANO FELICISSIMO SEN AVG, laureate bust right, wearing imperial mantle, holding mappa and olive branch
    PROVIDENTIA DEORVM QUIES AVGG, Quies and Providentia, facing each other, S | F in field, .SM.SD. at exergue, officina A
    10,70 gr
    Ref : Cohen #489, RCV # 13408 (220), RIC VI # 15b

    Q
     
  12. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    That's the sort of thing.
    I did collect these for a while....

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  13. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    I must admit when I first read the title I thought it meant rest as in the remaining and was very confused.

    These coins are really interesting and I must say I am going to have to keep an eye out for them.

    What are the hallmarks to look for for an abdication follis?

    Is it generally the S or the SEN in the legend before the AVG?
     
  14. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    There are a variety of P F S AVG types out there with the QVIES type being one such example.

    The Providentia types typically have long legends with BAEATIS or FELICISSIMO and the expanded SEN.

    The P F S types can be found with Genius types too. The following coin comes from the issue before by Quies from the OP.

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  15. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    Thanks Martin!

    Now to try and track one down!
     
  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    What about these non Senior coins?
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    Note the last one shows the obverse legend ending in BAEATISS. acsearch shows a couple of these listed from major houses that leave out the first A even though their perfect coins show the letters clearly.
     
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  17. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    I just bought a Maximianus PFS London Mint coin today, will post when it arrives..:)
     
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