[ancients] Happy Birthday Tiberius!!!

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  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Happy Birthday Tiberius! He succeeded the first and arguably greatest emperor of Rome, but all he really wanted was love. And sick, depraved parties on Capri.

    Lived : 16 November 42 BC – 16 March 37 AD
    Reigned : 18 September 14 AD - 16 Mar 37 AD

    This is my only coin of Tiberius, a rather poxy-complexioned as.

    Tiberius as.jpg

    Everyone please post your Tiberius coins! I may never get around to buying myself a Tribute Penny, so would be pleased to see everyone else's.

    Z.
     
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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice one!

    Heres mine. A couple of Asses and a Nero tetradrachm. t3070.JPG tb2971.JPG 1007381.JPG
     
  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sweeeet!! Wow zumbly, that's a beauty!! (congrats)

    Sadly, my only Tiberius coin is this recently-viewed honey:


    Tiberius Counterstamp a.jpg Tiberius Counterstamp b.jpg
     
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  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Very nice coin zumbly! I don't mind the surfaces at all, compared to the strong portrait and legends - definitely a keeper.
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Tiberius AR Denarius
    Tiberius 3_opt.jpg

    Tiberius AE25 Provincial from Emerita, Spain
    Tiberius 5_opt.jpg
     
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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Thanks! Nice countermarks on that one.
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Unfortunately a fourree but a decent two head type with Augustus
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    As with alter at Lugdunum
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    Rudder and globe As
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    As asses go this is thin and broad but the uneven patina hurts it.
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    If only the rest of the Alexandrian Nero coin were as nice as the Tiberius face
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  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Thanks! I do like the coin, but would have felt better if the seller's picture had shown the color of the surfaces more accurately. As a sidenote, I bought it when the seller was running a storewide 30% discount, and discovered later (from the auction ticket that came with the coin) that it was previously sold in a Meister & Sonntag auction and that the post-discount price I paid was exactly the estimate provided in the auction. In any case, I'm learning to be more critical when examining seller's pictures.
    Z.
     
  10. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    As portrayed in the great BBC series I Claudius, Tiberius only wanted to be a general and was very much in love with his wife Vipsania. Augustus, hounded by Livia's ambition to see Tiberius as Augustus' successor, forced Tiberius to divorce Vipsania and marry his daughter Julia, whom Tiberius despised. One gets the distinct feeling from I Claudius that this eventually resulted in Tiberius' depravity and corruption.

    TIBERIUS
    AE Dupondius (16.87 g.) Rome 16 - 22 A.D.
    TI CAESAR DIVI AVG F AVGVST IMP VIII Laureate head left. Rev. CLEMENTIAE S C Small facing bust, laureate, draped (Tiberius?) within laurel wreath on round shield w/circle of petals, outer circle of palmettos

    3a - Tiberius AE dupondius - dual.jpg

    TIBERIUS 42 B.C. - 37 A.D.
    AR Denarius (3.63 gm.) "Tribute Penny" Lugdunum
    Laureate head of Tiberius 4. / Female figure seated right

    3c - Tiberius AR denarius - dual.JPG

    TIBERIUS 42 B.C. - 37 A.D.
    AV Aureus (7.64 g.) Lugdunum (Lyon) 18-35 A.D.
    Obv. TI CAESAR DIVI AVG F AVGVSTVS laureate large head r. Rev. PONTIF MAXIM Livia (as Pax) seated right holding scepter in r. hand and olive branch in left

    3d - Tiberius AV aureus - dual.JPG
     
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  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'll tell you what auction house estimates mean: exactly nothing. If the surfaces really bother you, why not send it back? Did the dealer have a return policy?
     
  12. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I like the portrait in the OP.

    My tiberius I got this year, cant justify the cost of his silvers.

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  13. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Found the dealer you got it from. I have got many from him. I usually send offers though, even on his sales and each has always been accepted.

    I do think you overpaid a bit, but compare my $45 one to yours & you can see yours has a much better portrait while mine has rough surfaces..but I find attractive.
     
  14. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Sorry, I really should have given my sidenote some kind of explanation. It was more of an internal observation at the time, that the likely minimum price paid for the coin at auction (after factoring in fees), ended up being the same price paid for it from a dealer after a 30% discount off his rack price. I occasionally wonder about how dealers obtain their coins and the kind of margins they look for. As far as valuing a coin goes, from what I've seen, it's certainly true that house estimates very often mean nothing.
     
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  15. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Thanks for the tip, Mat. I love the reverse design of your Tiberius. And for a great price, too!
     
  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    If that was my coin, and I overpaid a little bit for it, I would be inclined to keep it - I think it's a very nice piece. What's a little leprosy? :p
     
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  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i like it, nice full legend, not worn much...pretty good lookin' i think.
     
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