[Ancients]Carrrrrrrrrus!...or maybe not.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by vlaha, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    I recently acquired this nice little tetradrachm from a source at my local coin club. Carus look a like.jpg Carus look a like rev.jpg

    The portrait is quite similar to this coin of Carus. tet.jpg
    However I looked on Wildwinds and couldn't find a match in the section of Carus.


    Help!:eek:
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I dont play with these since most seem to get bronze disease pretty badly from this era but the top coin is a beauty.
     
  4. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    ...and that leads me to another question, is this BD(and did I use the correct punctuation)? Carus look a like rev close.jpg
     
  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    From that close up it looks like just hard copper, which is OK and nothing to fear. Just to mess with it as BD could be underneath.
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Not Carus. I'll give you a hint: the first letter in the obverse legend is delta, and notice the letters TIAN. :)
     
  7. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    Here you go. It is Diocletian

    Diocletian Potin Tetadrachm of Alexandria. Year 7 = 291-292 AD.
    DIOKLETIANOC CEB, laureate & cuirassed bust right
    ENATOV, L to right, Elpis standing left, holding flower and raising hem of robe, A in ex
    Milne 5063

    Around this point in Alexandrian Tetradrachms all of the portraits start looking the same.
     
  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Come on, man. You can't make it that easy on 'em. :p
     
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  9. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    Ooops. Sorry!

    I like IDing these and this one is awesome!
     
  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's a superb representative of its kind.
     
  11. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    Yeah you don't see many with that clear of lettering on the legend. I recently sold most of my Potin tetradrachms because they really lost my fancy and I bought way to many low quality ones thinking they were awesome.

    This one would fit nicely in though!
     
  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That is an excellent Alexandrian tet! Wow!
     
  13. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Vlaha is this your first ancient coin??? its a beautie, chunky coin too, very nice my friend... ;)
     
  14. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Indeed, very nice!
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Enatoy is 9th year. They wrote it out rather than using the numeral theta because theta by itself is a symbol of death (thanatos) and was considered bad luck until the Christians took over and changed the pagan superstitions. The OP coin is about as clear on the obverse legends as these get unless being Greek is a problem to you. Part legend coins of Diocletian are often given away by the extremely small o which is more often than not only a dot. My coin below is much more typical in terms of legibility but still very readable for these. gi2690b01950lg.jpg
     
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  16. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    Ah thanks Doug. I wasn't paying attention and just pulled it from Wildwinds.
     
  17. ClarkCoins

    ClarkCoins Member

    Very nice looking coin there!
     
  18. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Nope, I have about twenty others, mostly Byzantine.
     
  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow vlaha => man, that's a sweet, sweet, sweet lil' TET!!

    => great new pick-up!! ... ummm, it is a Billon/Potin Alexandria, correct?

    Hey, small world ...

    => I happen to have a couple of examples of these Alexandria Billon/Potin Tets as well:



    Carinus

    potina.jpg
    potinb.jpg






    Saloninus

    saloninus a.jpg
    saloninus b.jpg
     
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  20. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Thanks, and yeah, from the resemblance to my Carus, I'd say that's a pretty accerate observation.
     
  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    While not 100% effective, Carus portraits tend to show a greater degree of forehead exposure (baldness) that the others with whom he might be confused. This works for antoniniani as well but some of them position the crown in a way that hides some skin. gi2673bb3065.jpg rx3080b02042alg.JPG rx3130bb1697.jpg
     
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