Ancient - The first of a couple new coins...BOAT!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Whizb4ng, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    The first coins in my spending spree arrived today. I did a quick happy dance in the hall (no one was looking I checked). It was the Hadrian I had won from CNG. Sidenote: The person who responds to the CNG e-mail is awesome! This was the second (of many) coin birthday presents to myself.

    Hadrian. AD 117-138. AR Denarius (18mm, 2.72 g, 6h). Rome mint. Struck circa AD 119-125.

    IMP CAESAR TRAIAN H ADRIANVS AVG, laureate head right
    P M TR P CO S III, galley right, no oarsmen: at the bow a mast raking forward with flag and sails attached, under full sail, at the stern is a stern-post and an arched cabin under a curved aplustre.
    RIC II 112; RSC 1173 var. (bust type).

    Ex Simon Shipp collection

    I love the fact that Simon Shipp collects reverses with galleys on them. It makes me smile.

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    It wasn't the prettiest one at the auction but is was definitely a 'Whizb4ng' coin.

    I am getting a little better at the coin photos one the ole tablet. It has a suprisingly decent camera.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Cool coin and a scarce type. I own no coins with ships on them to share.
     
  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ahaha, yah I chuckled at that too ...


    :)

    Great new pick-up, Whiz!! (congrats)

    => wow, apparently Manitoba is currently the ancient-coin-hot-spot, eh?!!

    Well played, brother!!
     
  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Love it!
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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    I find a couple of interesting comparisons between our coins. Your ship sails right; mine left. Yours has the square sail unfurled while mine is tied up into a butterfly shape. Both coins have a weak line half way up the ram about where I suspect would be the water line. Is this part of the ship or actually a mark of where the water would be? Your ship is a bit larger making it harder to place the legends evenly as with my smaller ship. Your coin has a portrait head while mine has bust drapery. If you research the CNG site, you will find they have sold quite a large variety of this popular type with many little boat detail variations. It is a great type coin for any emperor but especially for Hadrian, the travelling man. I bought mine from a Stacks auction in 1992 and we have been quite happy together. I wish you the same.
     
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  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I have but one galley and it's about to be gifted.

    HadrianGalleyGBsmall.jpg
     
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Doug, the clarity and details of that galley are stunning! Wow, great coin :)
     
  9. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    When going through the auction I was debating Bronze or or Silver. Decided to go with Silver because I hadn't bought a denarius in a long time. Also TIF I have some coins coming that you will probably enjoy ;)

    Steve - after this spree I am on the coin wagon until the New Year as well. Probably going to shore up my modern collection a bit from the junk bins but nothing major is coming out of me. I had also wanted an Allectus like the one you got but it went out of my price range quickly.

    Doug - I find it interesting about the subtle changes between the coins. CNG places a pretty open date range on the coins could these changes have come year to year with the change of the Triumvir's? Would you hazard a guess at to which coin was minted earlier between mine and yours? I would guess mine was an earlier version with the oversized nature of the galley while yours they had gotten a better feel of creating the galley. My coin is going to be quite at home here. It is currently sitting on my desk beside my statue of Thor (not Marvel) for admiration of myself and slight eye rolls from the girlfriend.

    Mat - Thanks for the compliment. Do you know of any lady coins with the galley? I can't think of any.
     
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  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Not many, I know Tranquillina & Salonina has some provincials with a galley. There could be others but they dont come to market often.
     
  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Not being home with my books makes me unsure what to make of the date range but I wonder if it is not based on the time he was Consul III rather than intending to pin down the date. I have no guess as to which was first.
     
  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Cool type.

    Doug, that one is awesome!
     
  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice coins all.
     
  14. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Whiz4 great lookin' coin, i really like these galley reverse..very nice..
     
  15. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Gasp! Do I hear the mailman coming my way?

    JK all.;)
     
  16. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Boats? I love them on coins.
    That is a nice Hadrian galley, Whiz. and happy birthday!
    Here are some of mine. DCAM0043.JPG DCAM0052.JPG DCAM0035.JPG DCAM0044.JPG 572196.jpg
     
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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I love the MA Legionary coins when they are in good shape like yours Eduard. I've shown mine so many times, I'll refrain from boring everyone. Nice coins.
     
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  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I really enjoy the Aurelius and Verus restitution of the Antony legionary type. I get a kick out of the necessity to change the obverse legend from the original ANT AVG to ANTONINVS AVGVR. When Antony issued the legionaries the title was Augur but 200 years later AVG had become the standard abbreviation for Augustus and it would be extremely inappropriate to issue these commemoratives suggesting Antony had been emperor before Augustus became Augustus. Similarly the ANT which was clearly Antonius in the first century BC became in need of spelling out to avoid confusion with Antoninus. It is a nice type and, fortunately, one of the lower priced restitution issues.
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Man, ya gotta love dem boats, eh?



    Allectus a.jpg Allectus b.jpg postumus too a.jpg postumus too b.jpg
     
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  20. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    My galley win from the Simon Shipp sale just arrived in the mail. It goes toward a Marcus Aurelius (mini)series I'm working on, and I'm really quite pleased with it. :)

    Marcus aurelius galley 400.jpg

    MARCUS AURELIUS
    Æ As
    10.2g, 25mm
    Rome mint, 177 AD
    RIC 1192
    O: M ANTONINVS AVG GERM SARM TRP XXXI, laureate head right
    R: FELICITATI AVG PP in two lines in field, IMP VIII [COS III], S C in ex, galley with four oarsmen, Neptune standing left on bow guiding the ship, foot on rock, holding dolphin or aplustre and trident, hortator in stern with and an arched cabin under a curved aplustre.
    From the Simon Shipp Collection
     
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  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    [quote="zumbly, post: 1813721, member: 57495" I'm really quite pleased with it. :)

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    Rightfully so! That is a very nice coin.
     
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