Ancient => sunaJ ][ Janus <= Roman Republican Bronze anyone?

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  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I have been searching/waiting for a cool version of a Roman Republican AE As ...

    => so when I spotted the awesome "Wolf Suckling Twins" above the prow, I pulled the ol' trigger!!

    Anonymous Roman Republican Æ As
    169-158 BC
    Rome mint
    Diameter: 35 mm
    Weight: 26.42 grams
    Obverse: Laureate head of bearded Janus; I (mark of value) above
    Reverse: Prow of galley right; above, she-wolf standing right, head left, suckling the twins Romulus and Remus; I (mark of value) to right
    Reference: Crawford 183/1; Sydenham 297
    Other: 11h … VF, green patina
    Duplicates from the RBW Collection


    Anonymous Roman Republican Janus a.jpg Anonymous Roman Republican Janus b.jpg


    ... please feel free to post your Roman Republican Bronzes!!
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yah, I realize that 1/2 of the coin is a bit weakly struck, but because I loved the strong-half so much, I decided to adopt

    => all 35mm and 26.42 grams of the lil' fella!!

    :)
     
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  4. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    Janus, the Twofaced....

    From a new site that I found that has a rather good (and I believe it is correct) definition of Janus (a rarity is a good definition)

    The new site is here: http://www.pantheon.org/articles/j/janus.html


    Love the twins!
     
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  5. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Cool and interesting coin! If I had any RR bronzes I'd post them (I do have a RR denarius though).
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks for coin-compliment, lil' dawg ...

    => and thanks for the link
     
  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hi Jango ... thanks

    => go ahead and post it, if you want (I love seeing other people's coins!!)

    :)
     
  8. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    Yay ship coin!:D

    I have the RBW part one catalog, lots of cool stuff.
     
  9. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    L. Rubrius Dossenus, moneyer - Roman Republic
    Obv: Laureate head of Jupiter right, with sceptre behind, DOSSEN to lower left
    Rev: Quadrigal carpentum with small Victory right, LRVBRI in ex
    Rome mint, struck 87 BC
    Rubria 1

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    RR as, my absolute favorite ancient series.
    They have an ideal size and relief(aka huge and high).

    Sorry I forgot to say it earlier Steve,
    awesome coin.
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Aes Rude, Aes Grave sextans, struck uncia, struck as (sextantal series), struck as (later)
    These are all of my Republican bronzes. I always wanted a prow series Aes Grave but never was willing to pay the price for the ugly ones I could afford.
     

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  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Great coin! I'm seriously lacking any RR ae's. Unless you count fourres then this is my my only one.

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  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Doug => fantastic assortment of coins, my wise ol' friend!!

    Aes Graves Sextans => I "love" the turtle obverse!!

    Aes Rude ... man, I had to look-up what this even was/meant ...

    => I'm totally jealous of your whole lot!!

    :eek:
     
  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I have one more Roman Republican Bronze ... I really like it too!!

    Roman Republic
    Post Reform Æ Semis (Anonymous)
    Circa 88 BC (?)
    Rome mint
    Diameter: 21mm
    Weight: 5.96 grams
    Obverse: Laureate head of Jupiter right; S (mark of value) behind
    Reverse: Prow of galley right; S (mark of value) above; to right, dolphin downward, ROMA in exergue
    Reference: Crawford –; Sydenham –; BMCRR II, p. 589, 10
    Other: 2h, Near VF, dark green patina. Rare

    From the British Museum catalog: “The date of issue of this coin is doubtful. It is of the semiuncial standard, and corresponds in work and style to similar pieces also with symbols which Count de Salis has assigned to B.C. 88, i.e., after the passing of the Lex Papiria ...”

    AE Semis a.jpg AE Semis b.jpg


    Ummm ...
    => does anybody have a better idea than me regarding the date of this baby?
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, Doug? (or anybody else with coin-skilz-to-burn) ...

    => is this new AE As coin o' mine a "cast bronze"? (the flan is cast?)


    :oops:
     
  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    A coin struck with dies on a cast flan is called 'Cast'. Cast coins were made by pouring molten metal into a mold (probably fine sand). The turtle is my only one but the full pound asses with Janus and the prow have to be on any Republican collector's want list.
     
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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks for your help, Doug

    :)
     
  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Okay, I'm gonna add another fold into my thread ...

    => I've been looking through my albums, and I've noticed that I now have "5" different examples of "Wolf Suckling Twins" ...

    So, here they are:

    Bachelor #1
    Anonymous Roman Republican Æ As
    Anonymous Roman Republican Janus a.jpg
    Anonymous Roman Republican Janus b.jpg


    Bachelor #2
    Sex. Pompeius Fostlus AR Denarius
    wolf suckling a.jpg
    wolf suckling.jpg


    Bachelor #3
    Philip I AR Antoninianus
    ancients666j.jpg
    ancients666jj.jpg


    Bachelor #4
    Maxentius - AE Follis
    maxentius a.jpg
    maxentius b.jpg



    Bachelor #5
    Constantine I Commemorative
    const comm a.jpg
    const comm b.jpg


    => so please feel free to add Roman Republican Bronzes and/or Wolf & Suckling twin coins!! (bring 'em!!)
     
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  19. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Oh steve, why'd you have to remind me of a coin that I want very, very badly?

    Ostrogothic Kingdom - 40 Nummi
    Obv: INVICT-A ROMA, Roma helmeted
    Rev: She-wolf suckling twins, XL above, dot I dot in ex
    Rome mint, struck 526-534 AD

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My AE31 wolf is from Ninica Claudiopolis in Cilicia under Maximinus I. It is just one of many Provincial uses of this type.
    gi1965b01441lg.jpg
    Mine is not very nice. CNG sold a decent one a few years ago:
    http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=65683
    The legends are not all that easily read but notice that the end of the obverse is stacked in two rows starting at the nose. I once considered the possibility that this was caused by double striking but that is where it is nice to see images of other examples that will help clarify such questions.

    Also: Macrinus AE29 from Laodicea ad Mare
    gi1570bb1687.jpg

    and Severus Alexander AE33 of Antioch, Pisidia

    gi1875bb2919.jpg

    Note that all three of these big coins are Latin Legend from full Colony status cities.
     
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  21. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Very cool coin Steve, beefy...i want to get one of these Janus two face coins...i like it, for some reason i don't have any wolf coins either..
     
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