Ancient - Roman Silver Coin, Where Was It Minted?

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  1. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Just another Roman silver coin, curious where was this coin minted...

    Legend reads

    Obv. Head of Diocletian right, with DIOCLETIANVS AVG around.
    Rev. VICTORIA SARMAT, four tetrarchs sacrificing over tripod before city enclosure with eight turrets.

    Note: Struck 96 to the Roman Pound approx. 3 grams

    actual is 19 mm x 3.00 grams whao...
    DioArg.jpg
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ===>>>> Fake!!!


    jokes ... sorry, but nobody has yelled that out recently ...

    My bad, Noob (just keepin' ya honest, my friend)

    Interesting side-ways presentation (I like it) ... and it's in a slab (that's very unlike you, no?)

    Regardless, your OP coin has sweet eye-appeal (yummy)

    *sigh* ... but as expected, I really don't have a clue on its mint-origin


    ... but again, I like it (cheers)
     
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  4. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I have a few slabbed coins but yes I;m mainly a break out dude. Some of them are better in the slab and other like this one will be better out.
     
  5. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Not sure whats up with the side ways photo, maybe my images is too long, lets see if I cant correct that.
    DioArg_opt.jpg

    Still not sure why its rotating my image, oh well.
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    As you know I have a similar coin for Maximianus; different reverse legend however. It was minted at Ticinum:
    Maximianus8.jpg
    MAXIMIANUS AR Argenteus
    OBVERSE: MAXIMIANVS AVG, laureate head right
    REVERSE: VIRTVS MILITVM, four tetrarchs sacrificing before walls with 8 turrets
    Struck at Ticinum, 295 AD
    2.6g, 18mm
    RIC VI 18b
     
  7. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I love that coin and that piece made me seek one out. I notice your coin only has 6 turrets. Might want to look into that.
     
  8. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Great coin! I've been wanting one of these Four Tetrarchs a-Sacrificin' types for awhile now.
     
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Good point. I have done an initial check and found a few with only 6 turrets. These resources indicate it is still probably correct to be Ticinum RIC VI 18b and that I just typed in the wrong number of turrets. Any insights are welcome.
     
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  10. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    DioArg (1).jpg
    There we go.
     
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  11. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    So envious right now! Great coin!
     
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  12. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    So noone knows where this was minted? What happened to those hardcore Romans that know all the variations.
     
  13. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I don't know but I am going with the Siscia Croatia Mint. Any objections?
     
  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => doesn't it say on your nifty "slab"?
     
  15. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    No. NgC dosnt put mints. Dont you have the sear book for this one.?
     
  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I think you may have to rely on portrait design. If so, looking at the coins of like design, I might conclude Rome mint.
     
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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Really? ... doesn't it have the RIC number, or any clues? (what does slabbing do for ya, just tell ya it's an aVG?)

    Noob, I briefly tried finding it in ERIC II for ya ... but I'd need more info

    Under Diocletian:

    Bust => is this bust Laureate (#21), Laureate & Cuirassed (#31), Laureate & Cuirassed & Draped (#36), or Laureate & Draped (#39)?

    Obverse => from your seller's description, I went with #2

    Reverse => from your seller's description, I went with #169

    Type => from your seller's description, I went with #161 (but perhaps #10)

    However, as I tried to find combinations associated with my choices I kept hitting dead-ends

    Sorry Noob ... perhaps somebody who actually knows a bit about Roman coins could point out where I failed? (thanks)
     
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  18. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Good call Bing. I was torn between Siscia and Rome. I knew adventually I would have to go through each and every Diocletian Argenteus out there. Of coirse thats part of the enjoyment. Thanks for your two cents Bing.
     
  19. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Thanks for the help, Steve. I knew I could count on my Original Buddies to help me out. Im going to have to dowbload Eric II and see what I can come up with.
    Hahaha aVG lol you mean Ch VF.
    I believe he give an RSSC number. Im gonna do more digging.
    Slabs does next to nothing for you, NGC gives the vaguist attribution for a coin they dont even put the legend.
     
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