Ancient Persian—My Recently Aquired Newest Ancient

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  1. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Post your oldest ancient

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  3. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Lifetime tet of Alexander 332-326 BCE
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  4. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    This is my oldest coin (fossils excluded;))--the lion/boar hemiobol from Mysia, circa 525 BC

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  5. lrbguy

    lrbguy Well-Known Member

    This is an old scan of a trite I bought years ago at a CNG auction. It is Lydian from 600-610 BC
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  6. Johndakerftw

    Johndakerftw Mr. Rogers is My Hero

    Once again, I am super jealous of your newest purchase, Deacon Ray! I ask forgiveness. :D

    This coin is on the top of my wish list for next year!

    My oldest coin is the same kind as Mikey's:

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    Here is bro's:

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    It's a tiny thing, 4.5mm from about 625 BC.

    Erin
     
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  7. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Another fabulous presentation , congrats Ray.

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  8. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    I do like these siglos! The countermarks on them are always interesting too (your side-mark is really fascinating @Andres2 !). Nice coin @Deacon Ray !

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    Persian Empire
    Darius I to Xerxes II, r. 485-420 B.C.
    Sardes Mint, AR Siglos, 15.87mm x 5.6 grams
    Obv.: King running right holding spear and bow
    Rev.: Incuse punch
    Ref.: SGCV 3428, Carradice Type IIIb, Group A/B

    I might need to redo that photo... I don't think the coin is that dark.
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    OLDEST EGYPT:

    Egypt SCARAB Middle Kingdom 2065-1650 BCE Scarabaeus Sphinx.jpg
    Egypt SCARAB Middle Kingdom 2065-1650 BCE Scarabaeus Sphinx


    OLDEST CHINA:


    China Shang Dyn 1766-1154 BC Ant Nose Ge Liu Zhu 2-6g 19-5x11 very scarce H 1.10.jpg
    China Shang Dyn 1766-1154 BCE Ant Nose Ge Liu Zhu 2.6g 19-5x11 very scarce H 1.10


    OLDEST WESTERN: (also my smallest diameter)

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    Ionia AR Tetartemorion 4mm 0.13g 530-500 BCE Rosette - Incuse sq punch 5 pellets SNG von Aulock 1807

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    Iona Kolophon AR Tetartemorion 530-520 BCE Archaic Apollo Incuse Punch 0.15g 4.5mm- SNG Kayhan 343


    OLDEST GOLD:

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    PERSIA Achaemenid Daris I-Xerxes II 485-420 BCE AV Daric 14mm 8.3g LydoMilesian Sardes king wearing kidaris kandys quiver spear bow Incuse Carr Type IIIb Group A-B pl XIII 27 (FIRST full Gold coin used in commerce or transactions between states)
     
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  10. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    I have both of the more common designs of Persian sigloi, the "king with bow and spear" and the "king with bow and dagger":
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Love the bankers marks!
     
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  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice coin and of course another fabulous D-Ray graphic! :)

    My oldest coin:

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    KINGS OF LYDIA, temp. Ardys - Alyattes
    c. 630s-564/53 BCE (dates from a CNG listing of a similar coin*; I do not have the reference books nor have I read the latest thoughts)
    Electrum trite, 4.8 gm, 13.4 mm. Sardes mint.
    Obv: head of roaring lion right, sun with four rays on forehead
    Rev: two incuse square punches
    Ref: Weidauer Group XV, 64; BMC 2

    * "Recent research (mostly forthcoming in publication, but cf. White Gold p. 20) has shown that the earliest Lydian electrum had begun before circa 630 BC, predating our traditional attribution to Alyattes. This redating affects Weidauer Groups XV, XVII, and XVIII, as well as the lion paw fractions and boar head coins that Spier linked to the early Lydian coinage (see the following lot)."
     
  13. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    Great coin Ray and everyone else. This one is currently my oldest until my recent auction wins get here.
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    Lucania, Metapontum, 510 - 470 BC
    Silver Stater, 25mm, 7.71 grams
    Ear of barley with six grains either side / Incuse of obverse.
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  14. TheRed

    TheRed Well-Known Member

    My oldest coin:
    Athens AR Tetradrachm 353 - c. 340 B.C.; 16.873g, 25.8mm
    Obv: head of Athena right with eye seen in true profile, wearing crested helmet ornamented with three olive leaves and pi-style floral scroll.
    Rev: owl standing right, head facing, to right AQE in large lettering, to left olive sprig and crescent.
    SNG Cop 63
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  15. Aunduril

    Aunduril Well-Known Member

    My current oldest:

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    Carthage 300-264 BC
     
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  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Some real oldies but goodies in this thread
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    APOLLONIA PONTIKA
    AR Hemiobol
    OBVERSE: Anchor, A in field
    REVERSE: Swastika with two parallel lines in each quadrant
    Struck at Apollonia Pontika, circa 500BC
    .28g, 6.54mm
    SNG BM 149; Moushmov 3146
    ex. Aegean Numismaics
     
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  17. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

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    Ionia, Miletos
    AR
    6th century BC
    Lion right, roaring head turned back left/ star and pellets

    9mm .9g
     
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  18. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Great coins everyone and as always a beautiful presentation @Deacon Ray !

    Here is my Persian Siglos
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    My oldest is probably my Athenia Tetradrachm
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    Ca. 454-404 B.C.
     
  19. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Awesome posts, CoinTalk Ancient friends! Many thanks for the feedback!

    Blessings to all of you!
     
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  20. DBDc80

    DBDc80 Numismatist

    20170508_230200.jpg 20170508_230228.jpg Larissa Drachm ca. 4th century B.C.
     
  21. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That's a real beauty @DBDc80, and pouts my Trihemiobol to shame.
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    THESSALY, LARISSA
    AR Trihemiobol
    OBVERSE: Head of nymph Larissa three-quarter facing left in necklace, hair confined by fillet & floating loosely, with ampyx in front
    REVERSE: ΛAPI (Laris) above, horse feeding right.
    Struck at Larissa 395-344 BC
    .75g, 10mm
    SNG Cop 135
     
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