Ancient - On the Silk Road the Cash Is Green- Turgesh Khagan

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  1. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    During the early middle ages the Arab advance into central seemed unstoppable and nearly complete, the products of the silk road lined the city streets and the pockets of merchants.
    The Sogd traders are among the most famous and celebrated trade cultures of the ancient world. Ancient Chinese and Indian texts make reference to large portions of the traders delivering wears on to Tang China were Sogd merchants. These people eventually became the word for merchant in the region.
    The Sodg clans resisted the Arab invasion and sought the comfort and support of the Chinese economic system. Casting coins in bronze with the Chief Tamgha and in Sogdiane script. (A type of Aramaic language.)

    What I don't understand is why the refernces say that the reverse tamgha is a Runic(?) letter "P". I thought Runic was being used in Europe and a "p" looks like modern "K."We need someone to go medieval on the subject and throw cash at it.

    Russian Turkestan
    Semirech'e, Sogd
    Turgesh Kaganate
    AE Fen 25 mm x 5.26 gram
    Cast AD 750-800
    Obverse: Sogdian legend "Fen of King of Turgesh Kagan" around square hole
    Reverse: Tamgha of Turgesh in the shape of a runic letter "P" in the left field.
    Ref: Kamyshev's #24 in "Early Medieval Monetary Complex of Semirechie"
    Note: Extremely Rare. Thick beautiful green patina.
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  3. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    very cool coin AN. i've been looking at these recently, and i haven't found one in my price range yet...they may look like chinese cash coins, but they're in a whole other price range aren't they?

    pretty color also.:hungry:
     
  4. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Ah I will PM you I found a guy who sells them, auctions start low and no one apparently wants it besides me. I paid like $25 or something.
     
  5. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Hook me up too! :D
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Noob => Interesting coin and great thread (thanks for the effort)
     
  7. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Very nice inscriptions on this.
    Thanks for showing !
     
  8. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Couple of points. The reason the cash coins were used were because the Tang had taken over Xianjiang and were the dominant military force in the region. Also, the Arabs had other areas more important to conquer, and we're not really trying in Central Asia yet. Only after the Tang weakened did the arabs attack. The very last central Asian cash coin had Arabic letters on it.

    Regarding this coin being very rare, well maybe compared to Roman coins. I own maybe 20 examples of this type. It's one of the most common types for Sogdian cash. There is actually a new book on them, unfortunately in Russian with just a small English summary.

    It really is too bad we do not live closer AN, we would have a blast. :) Btw, I have 5 ebay sellers that I follow, two in NY, two in London, and on in Israel. $25 is a good price for this conditon one though.
     
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  9. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I have seen enough examples to challenge the very rare, term, but I noticed that these heavier examples, over 4.5 are far rarer then the usuals of the sub 3 gram class.
    I have another Peroz Imitation you might want to take a look at it. You might like it.
     
  10. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    From the same seller as these? I have bought I think six of his so far. Very interesting countermarked on them. I love the head countermark.
     
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  11. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    You have to start sharing more of these man. I am dying out here with the obscure Asian stuff. man, I am glad I have THC and Bill for back up.
     
  12. norenxaq

    norenxaq Active Member

    turkic writing is often referred to as runic
     
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  13. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

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