Ancient imitations

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Valentinian, Jun 4, 2015.

  1. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Some Roman Republican silver denarii are actually ancient counterfeits. I just added one at the very top of my educational site:

    http://esty.ancients.info/imit/

    I found that ancient imitations made an interesting collecting theme.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Interesting Warren, but I still don't care for fourees. I can't exactly say why, but perhaps it has something to do with not liking the idea of someone taking advantage of the system, then or now.
     
  4. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Recently, there was a thread about these types of coins---Fourrees.....and the debate over they were official misconduct, authorized officially or the usual 'criminal' type of counterfeiting we think of today.... and most of us have at least one. My sole example follows : 01fouree.jpg
     
  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Thanks for the link, Warren. I like Fourees, but I found a few tend to get bronze disease pretty easily and since I detest BD, I dont play bother with Fourees. I just have 1 and it's never gotten BD thank goodness.
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Those who like unofficial and do not like fourrees can collect solid imitations. Some are lower grade silver but some were made to fill a need for circulating coinage rather than to cheat people. My samples are silver, not plated.
    Tiberius (from India)
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    Commodus
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    Septimius Severus
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    Julia Domna
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    There are also good weight and metal bronzes.

    Domitian
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    I once collected fourrees but stopped when too many of you started paying solid prices for them. A few of mine are on my pages.
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/fourree.html

    Warren mentioned fourrees started with the beginning of coins. I always wanted a bull/lion Croesid fourree but never got one. These are oldies (before 500 BC).

    Macedon
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    Persian Empire
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  7. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Your killing me Doug!
     
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  8. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Nice site Valentinian. I do like unofficial and fourée coins but I never thought of putting together a 12 Caesar set. I think that would be rather fun. Here's one of my favorites. One of the more interesting types as it is found more often as a fourée than solid silver. FWIW that's not BD, just patina. normal_JudaeaDevicta.jpg
     
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  9. arnoldoe

    arnoldoe Well-Known Member

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    Here's one of mine, It's a Commodus obverse dated 183-84 AD and a RiC 206 Marcus Aurelius reverse dated 168-169 AD
     
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  10. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

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    Nerva
    Coin: Silver Fouree Denarius Ancient Fake
    IMP NERVA CAES AVG P M TR PII COS III PP - Nerva laureatte right
    PONT MAX????? COS II - Pax standing left with branch and cornucopia
    Wt./Size/Axis: 2.57g / 19mm / -
    Acquisition/Sale: $0.00
    Notes: Jan 14, 15 - Obverse used in RIC 25 and others, reverse used for Trajan. Obverse has COS III and reverse is COS II

    I don't seek out fourees, but I don't mind them. I had huge fun with this one. The dies had to be smuggled out of the mint. Paired up with something that looked OK. Your imagination can run riot.:D
     
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