Ancient Greek Coin Identification Assistance

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by -monolith-, Jul 18, 2024.

  1. -monolith-

    -monolith- Supporter! Supporter

    I recently purchased this coin. It was listed as "Ionia, Magnesia ad Maeander ?". I was only able to find a couple other specimens that were also identified the same way. All images and descriptions (BMCG 14, Pages 160-161) are of a butting bull left, not right. Does anyone know if this is the correct identification:

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    The Auction Listing:
    Ionia. Magnesia ad Maeander ? circa 350-200 BC. Bronze Æ (13,6 mm, 1.6 g). Warrior riding horse right, holding lance /Bull charging to right.

    Here is what I sort of know:
    Province, City:
    Ionia. Magnesia ad Maeander ?
    Denomination: AE 13.6 (13.6 mm)
    Weight: 1.6 g
    Mint: Ionia (350 - 200 BC) ?
    Obverse: Horseman galloping to right, holding spear; ?AΓA below
    (most coins from this region have MAΓN below the horse not ?AΓA)
    Reverse: Humped bull butting to right
    References: Possibly unpublished; BMCG 14, Pages 160-161, all references are butting bull left (not right)

    Other Specimens:

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    This one looks like it could be a die match
     

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    Last edited: Jul 20, 2024
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  3. -monolith-

    -monolith- Supporter! Supporter

    Mystery solved. I was able identify the missing letter "C" in the inscription and therefore was able to identify it as a very rare issue from Pisidia, Sagalassus (Sagalassos). Here is the revised information:

    Province, City:
    Pisidia, Sagalassus (Sagalassos)
    Denomination: AE 13.6 (13.6 mm)
    Weight: 1.6 g
    Mint: Sagalassus (1st century AD)
    Obverse: Bull butting right
    Reverse: Warrior on horseback holding lance; CAΓA below
    References: SNG France 3, 1746
    Note: Very rare, 3 known specimens
     
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  4. nathan burnett

    nathan burnett New Member

    can someone please help me identidy please..ive been searching forever..but the coin is so gunked up its really hard for me to identify..
     

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  5. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Hello Nathan and welcome aboard. It is always best to start a new topic when you have a new I.D. request.

    Your coin is Constantius II, struck around A.D. 350 and though I can't really make out the mintmark, it seems like it might be Rome.

    Obverse: DN CONSTANTIVS PF AVG – diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: FEL TEMP REPARATIO [Happy times are here again] -- Soldier spearing fallen horseman


    a similar example (pearl diademed though) --

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  6. nathan burnett

    nathan burnett New Member

    well thank you for the quick and informational reply...sorry this was my first time posting wasnt sure how it was done..any tips to getting all the gunk cleaned off the coin..when i found this coin in my pocket change it was litterally rounded on both sides with..years of buildup..just need some tips on how to finish the process of cleaning it up..
     
  7. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    To be honest, that coin is beyond cleaning. It has no patina left and has very corroded surfaces. If you want to remove the green encrustations you could soak it in a solution of baking soda for a few days. I wouldn't even bother though as this coin has no value and will never look any better than it does now. Another honest point...coins like this I put in my slug jar.
     
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  8. nathan burnett

    nathan burnett New Member

    yeah i know its not worth anything..was just going to get as recognizable as i could and throw it in a coin book for the kids when they get older..but thank you for all your help and advice
     
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