ANCIENT - Fat Black Litra - Sicily, Syracuse 405 - 367 BC

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  1. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I have had my eye on this coin for over a year I have seen its price reduced many times. Many times I was committed to another coin or was broke or some other deal I felt I couldn't pass up came along. I have recommended it to several friends whom were looking for a similar type. For whatever reason it went unsold. I felt that this coin was meant for me to appreciate. A large gorgeous thickly patinized black ancient bronze litra from the time of the tyrant Dionysios I to the time of the Third Democracy.405 -367BC
    I handed the coin to my wife and asked her what she thought. (shes not into coins) She responded," It doesn't feel like a coin- it feels like a rock!" I think thats a good discription of what it feels like. I said "Yea A very smooth cold rock - Struck in Syracuse after 395 BC!!!

    Italy,Sicily,Syracuse
    AE Litra 25.16 g x 29.2 mm
    Time of Dionysios I - Third Democracy
    405-367 BC. Struck after 395 BC.
    Obverse: Head of Athena left, wearing Corinthian helmet decorated with an olive wreath - SYPA
    Reverse: Octopus between two dolphins.
    ref: Calciati II pg. 128, 62/70; SNG ANS 454; SNG Morcom 697. Sear #1189
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  3. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    It's very cool...

    I love Syracusian coins, but they are not my focus for now... Punic and Non-Classicals for me :D
     
  4. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

    Yeah, those are very cool imo :cool:

    Nice chubby flan !

    My fat one :biggrin:

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  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Those really are rocks - the thickest flans I've ever seen. Ancientnoob, that coin was obviously waiting patiently for its rightful owner. :thumb:

    As far as wives go, mine wanted to spin a Greek Philip II bronze on the kitchen counter! :eek:

    So I let her. :confused:
     
  6. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    It should be your focus.

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  7. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer


    Daaaaaaaaannnnnng thats a nice Chubby!!!! Look ant the legend everybody!!!!......Daaaaannnnnngggg!
     
  8. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    So what would you value my coin at in $USD? I want to know if I got a real deal?
     
  9. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    It isn't yet (keyword, yet!)

    I can't afford them in the grades I like... :(

    I prefer centered coins with solid patinas...

    And those cost a lot when they have okay details :(
     
  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I have no idea, but I'd rather have your coin than a couple I saw on vcoins in the 250-300 range. If that helps...
     
  11. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

    Hmmmm... 100-150$ (Paid mine aroud 325$)...
     
  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Both coins are outstanding examples and I would love to have one some day. :thumb::thumb::thumb:
     
  13. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Still music to my ears! I paid $90,Shipped
     
  14. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

    Not a bad deal I'd say :yes:
     
  15. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I still cant get over the fact its soo heavy for its size. Its so chubby!
     
  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's almost the weight of a US silver dollar scrunched down to almost the size of a half dollar. :)
     
  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

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    I absolutely love the coins from Syracuse!! (super cool!!)

    => that's one great lookin' black rock, A-Dawg!!
     
  18. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Wow Anoob, to wait and pick this up awesome, you sure can find them, we will have to start calling you a young Mr. Harper....:D
     
  19. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer


    To claim lineage to a great person was the fashionable thing to do if you wanted to strike coins for the masses.
     
  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    :d
     
  21. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    I really want one of these Litras, but they are so hard to find in the condition I want. I have several other bronzes from Syracuse from that era, but nothing large sized. In my experience it is easier to find nice higher grade silver than it is bronze. Something in the climate there must have been really harsh on the bronze.
     
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