Ancient Curses.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/11/tourist-returns-cursed-artefacts-pilfered-from-pompeii
And do you believe in ancient coins being cursed? I considered a coin I owned being cursed, it is a 5 Reichsmarks coin I bought back in February, I have carried various coins as a pocket piece and rotate them as I feel like it, but during the week I carried it my city went into lockdown, my classes were shut and since my course needs lab works and it's all work/study from home, I had to change my course as well, so I sold it. It may seem silly, but I definitely felt the negative vibes coming off from the coin.

 

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I don't know but I detest people who deface or steal from historical sites.

 

May I suggest that, for better good fortune attending your affairs, you try carrying the coin of a battlefield winner and a ruler not succeeded by a tyrant. Try a dupondius of Trajan like my avatar.

 

Or, have a wonderful Dog by your side.

 

I've never felt anything supernatural about my coins, to be honest! I'm fascinated about the people who used them when they circulated - what did they buy, how have they come down through the centuries to me, etc.

Not a coin, but a couple of years ago the heart of St. Laurence O'Toole was returned as the thieves who stole it linked it to deaths by heart attacks of relatives...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30839586.html

ATB,
Aidan.

 

LOL, OMG! Yeah, that be KARMA!

Agreed, enjoy my coins, fascinated with where and whom they circulated with, and I do not believe in curses.

Hence, my suggestion for Happiness: Dog, pet, etc. to be a non-Human companion, a real Buddy. Dogs have given me unconditional love.


Roman Republic
C Mamilius
82 BCE
AR Denarius Serrated
Mercury winged petasos caduceus
Ulysses and his Dog Argos
Sear 282 Craw 362-1

 

I nearly stole a baseball-sized architectural element from a Cambodia ruin, but ended up taking it back out and replacing it.

I really wanted it, but the conscience wouldn’t allow

 

This coin actually has a curse written on it!
'Cursed is whomever disrespects/ abuses this Dirham'



Lot 1879
ISLAMIC, Anatolia & al-Jazira (Post-Seljuk). Artuqids (Mardin). Qutb al-Din Il-Ghazi II, AH 572-580 / AD 1176-1184. Dirham (Bronze, 35 mm, 15.50 g, 10 h), uncertain mint (Mardin?), 577 AH = 1181/2. Two Byzantine style busts, draped and wearing headwear, the larger bust with dishevelled hair, the smaller bust with a close-fitting hat; above, AH date in Kufic. Rev. Legend in Kufic bearing the name of the Abassid caliph al-Nasir li'l-Din, the Comander of the Faithful; the genealogy of Qutb al-Din Il-Ghazi II naming his father, Najm al-Din, and his grandfather, Husam al-Din, only by their laqabs; and a curse condemning every person, who abuses this dirham. Spengler & Sayles 32. A boldly struck and attractive piece. Repatinated and with a minor scrape on the obverse, otherwise, about extremely fine.


The obverse is probably a depiction of an astrological event which took place in 576 AH = 1180/1 AD, when the planet Mercury passed the face of the Sun. If this interpretation is correct, the larger bust, with disheveled hair resembling flames, represents the sun, whereas the smaller bust is an image of the planet Mercury.

 

@JayAg47, one thing about what you said that really resonates is the kind of vibe you can get from objects with particularly nefarious connotations. --Especially recent ones; the 20th century emphatically included.
I admire, but can't really relate to Jewish dealers and collectors who specialize, to any degree, in stuff from the Holocaust. You'd have to be that well-rested, every single day. ...When I was a kid, the family spent half a summer in western (still, and emphatically) Germany, mostly sponging off a very naturalized aunt and her native husband. I fell into an SS helmet, intact except for the lining and the 'SS' device scratched off of one of the shields on either side of it. I was wearing that thing. ...Eventually, I had to get rid of it.
Fast forward to a nominal graduate program I was pursuing, at an equally nominal state university. I was looking in the history section of the local public library, and found a tract on one of the shelves, from a local white supremacist group. --Very much like religious tracts, replete with lots of abuse of Scripture. I took it home, and seriously considered keeping it, as more or less the citizen's-arrest equivalent of state's evidence. But, Yeah, I had to toss it. ...Might've burned it.
...Anyway, can't comment on any causal relation, but just on emotional levels, this kind of stuff can be more evocative than some of us need.

 

I agree +VGO.DVCKS, well done thanks. Be safe

 

I am not aware of any Jewish dealers or collectors who specialize in that kind of material, especially to the extent it emanates from the perpetrators. The idea of collecting anything of the kind disgusts me. As the daughter of a Holocaust survivor, I can tell you that even when material from victims and survivors comes up for sale (such as old letters from an estate), most Jewish people I know believe it should go instead to a museum. Which is what will happen someday to the materials I have (including original letters written from a concentration camp by my mother's grandmother) if my son doesn't want the responsibility of caring for them. Specifically, they'll all go to the Leo Baeck Institute at the Center for Jewish History here in New York City.

 

@DonnaML, there's only this one guy, nearer (across the wide prairie) to me than you. http://www.rosenblumcoins.com/
The impression I got from his specifically Nazi-era listings (going back decades now, when I was getting his printed lists) was that this was still coming from a distinctly post-Nuremburg kind of sensibility. ...But, yeah, it still could've made you say, 'Brrrrrrrrrrrr.'

 

...Except, No, you're that right and I'm that busted; a museum is the best place for this Scheiss. ...As in, thank you, other contexts which might come to mind.

 

The name is familiar to me as someone who sells coins and medals of Jewish interest -- and perhaps other Judaica -- but I wasn't aware that he sold Holocaust-related materials. I doubt that he ever sold Nazi memorabilia. To me, there's a difference between selling daggers and flags with swastikas on them, and selling anti-Semitic materials of real historical interest, whether it's anti-Semitic medals from the Reformation era, or anti-Dreyfus materials from France, or the output of Julius Streicher. I still think that even materials of historical interest belong in museums, and not so much in private hands.

 

@DonnaML, thank you very much for your distinction between materials that document the Holocaust, and ones that are marketed as if they glorified it. This is precisely the kind of nuance that more of us need. Bill Rosenblum was always in the first category. I just never understood how he could pursue it on that level.

 

@hotwheelsearl, I've imagined doing the same thing at some typically under-maintained castle in the UK, and then thinking about whether I could really have so little respect, not just for the edifice in question, but for its ongoing, communal legacy.

 

There’s a scary story about a girl who goes on a field trip to a museum where she sees a mummy.

when nobody’s looking she reaches over and tears off one little piece of the wrapping.

that night, she feels a prick on her head but thinks nothing of it. Same thing the next night and the next.

so one day she pretends to be sleeping, waits for the prick, and bolts upright with a flashlight.

there, in the light, is the same mummy. Holding a strand of her hair.

“just one little piece...”

 

...Whooooooo--oh. Where's the story from? I like it already.

 

I remember everything but the author or the book collection. It *may* have been part of a Weenies collection by David Lubar, possibly. Great story though and a good moral

 

Thanks, but I'm getting zero traction with that. Might wiki David Lubar. ...Why not, for this minute....