Ancient Coin Society Coins (Silver)

View attachment 99270 View attachment 99269 View attachment 99268 View attachment 99267 View attachment 99261 View attachment 99262 View attachment 99263 Here is some of the ancient coins I ha View attachment 99264 ve ,Two sets of the same Roman Emperors. I'm thinking about selling one set , what price range should expect people to offer at a coin show? View attachment 99265

 

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Well I put up alot more pics, I don't know why they're not loading.

 

I could only see one large photo but that Trajan is ordinary and unlikely to get any kind of offer from a dealer specializing in ancient coins. The certificate mentions Hadrian and Septimius Severus. Both are common and cheaper than Trajan but more often available in better condition. If all three coins are in similar condition and none are special in terms of type, I would expect around $35 for the set. You might get more from a dealer who does not usually handle ancient coins and who might be more impressed by the packaging but the demand for low grade, polished denarii in packaged beginner sets is not high. A dealer in such coins would probably offer half of what he would expect to sell the coins for. The offer would depend on just how nice the other two coins were.

 

I'd be curious to see the Septimius Severus coins as well if you could try posting those. So far though, Doug is spot on with his assessment. The Trajan looks polished to death, and the presentation is clearly meant for beginning ancient collectors. Once you get past the "Wow, I own coins that are nearly two thousand years old!" phase, you start looking at things like condition and rarity a lot more objectively. Which isn't to say your coins aren't without value -- just that any veteran collector of ancients probably won't be interested based on what we've seen here.

 

Here is some more pics, thanks for the info so far !

 

and one more.

 

The new photos do nothing to change my estimate. The coins appear to be genuine and very ordinary. I would expect some dealers would simply pass on them while others might make a low offer in the area of $10 each. The last Trajan seems a bit better (worn but less harshly cleaned) but still $20 tops? The second Hadrian is less worn but still looks cleaned a bit more vigorously than purists prefer. I stand with the opinion that the greatest value of the sets would be to a dealer/non-collector of ancients who was impressed by the packaging and would try to sell the set to someone else who did not have any ancients but thought they were neat.

 

Do you have photos of the reverses of these coins you just put the pictures up of? Specifically the first three in your last post, the two Hadrian, and Septimius Severus reverses.

I always liked that 'heroic' style bust on Hadrian in the first picture from your last post, and the second Hadrian one you posted looks to have a fairly nice portrait.

 

While I agree with Doug, I think you might get a little more out of them if you wished to sell. I think a lot of non collectors like the presentations and writeups associated with these. With pictures of especially the Hardian and Septimus I think you would do well on Ebay.

 

I just posted the reverses .

 

Okay, nice. It looks like one of the Septimius Severus denarii has the 'ARAB ADIAB....' reverse, with Victory holding a wreath and a trophy over her shoulder. I'm not sure if it is a rare reverse, but it's popular with some collectors.
The first reverse you post, of one of the Hadrian coins 'COS III' is of Spes, I believe, holding a flower and lifting her skirt slightly.
I think the last reverse you posted is of Felicitas holding a short caduceus and cornucopiae.

 

ARAB ADIAB is not particularly rare but most are on small flans with partial legends. As these go, this one really is not bad. Perhaps it is worth a bit of a premium but that is driven by the legend clarity not the type rarity. The question is just how much a market there is for middle grade examples of mid level special types? I have one not this nice that cost me $10 and one with full, bold strike would be $100. Perhaps this is $40 retail of which the dealer might offer half? Whatever this reverse added to the value is offset by the Liberalitas and Pax reverses which are worse than their obverses. I'll be interested in just what offer these achieve. Were they my coins, I'd keep the Septimius Adiab, the Hadrian Spes and the Trajan Felicitas which I see as better than the other set.

 

Thank you so much for the info , I'm going to a coin show this weekend so I might take it there to see if anyone would interested in buying one set off me, maybe trade for something.

 

Please let us know the result. In particular, I'd like to know if the buyer had several thousand other ancients or only a few.

 

Okay, I went to the show and the guy there said the ones that were more valuable were the three you picked 'dougsmit', a fair offer being $150.00 for that set and the other set $75.00. Now keep in mind he didn't even look at the reverse side of the coins, he kinda just brushed me along after looking at my coins real quick lol. He dealt with only ancients and he had hundreds of them there. I will keep the more valuable set for sure, dou you think $75.00 is fair for the other set? I could just put it up on ebay and see what it sells for.

 

I missed something here. Did he say the coins were worth $75 or did he offer $75? I do believe that $75 is more than fair (to you) for the lesser group but I sincerely doubt a 'real' dealer or eBay bargain hunters would pay that much. A dealer with hundreds of ancients generally wants to buy nicer things that will sell easily.

 

Which show? Which guy?

This is a small community. We all know each other. I know Doug Smith here from The Celator. He is an expert to whom I usually defer.

That said, you are missing the forest for the trees -- and Doug is, too. (His avatar reveals his interest in the coin, not the holder.) This is not about coins. This is about the holders.

You have -- you had -- a "coin board" which is itself a collectible. When you busted the coins out of it, you ruined its value.

We cannot undo that, but we can take note that numismatics is about more than the coins.

Here are just two articles from the weekly email of the Numismatic Bibliomania Society, the real "literary guild" of our hobby. You can find more on the CoinBooks website.

http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v13n25a26.html
http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v12n18a20.html

 

The question is whether a coin gains or loses value when overpackaged. If the holder came from a reputable numismatic source I'd say gained; if from someone whose skills are in marketing, I'd rather see the coin.

 

I didn't catch his name , he said " a fair offer " would be 75 for one set and 150 for the other. He never said he would buy them. This was a small show in the Central Valley, CA.