Ancient Coin - Antoninus Pius?

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  1. terry jenkins

    terry jenkins New Member

    I have in my collection a rare coin possibly from the Roman Empire. On the face is what I believe to be Antoninus Pius (138-ad/161ad) and on the back is a picture of a male figure that looks like Artemis holding a bow in his left hand and drawing an arrow with his right. Inscribed on the left side is the letter "L" and above that looks like the letter "C". Does anyone know any details on this coin or where I can find more information about this? I have attached a picture of the coin. Thank you in advance.
     

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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It would an Egyptian tetradrachm, Milne 1705, Emmett 1362/5, but the fabric looks quite modern. It's likely a replica.
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hi Terry, welcome to CoinTalk ancients!

    Images edited for ease of viewing:

    CTunk-TerryJenkins-APiArtemis-tet.jpg

    In theory, it is a Roman Provincial tetradrachm of Antoninus Pius struck in Alexandria, Egypt. The reverse is Artemis advancing right, holding bow.

    The metal doesn't look right and the obverse legend doesn't fit any known legends for year 5. The regnal year on the reverse reads "L C" which appears to be a mistake. I assume the maker meant to carve an E rather than C.

    It appears to be a modern fake or fantasy. The original coin it mimics is Emmett 1362.5, rated common.

    Edited: I agree with John :D
     
  5. terry jenkins

    terry jenkins New Member

    Thanks for the prompt response. After a few hours of online research, I am unable to find but only one that comes close to looking like this coin. I will look into the information that you provided me. Thanks again.
     
  6. terry jenkins

    terry jenkins New Member

    what were these coins made from? Replica and Original? thanks
     
  7. Jwt708

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  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    They were made from Billon - a silver/bronze based alloy.
     
  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Here's an example of the coin it copies. There is considerable variation in style among these. This particular example may even be the exact coin used as inspiration for your replica.

    from CNG's archives:

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    Interestingly, the middle arm of the E on this coin's reverse is rather faint and might be mistaken for a die defect or other problem. Maybe that's why the copier thought it was a C and omitted the stroke from your copy.
     
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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The coins Jwt and TIF posted demonstrate that these tetradrachms were of a billon alloy that contained very little silver. They never look as silvery as your example. That's part of the problem with the fabric of your coin.
     
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  11. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have found another example from matching dies to the OP coin. More than that they share the same flan shapes. This is the strongest indication there is that either one or both are casts and I suspect both are cast fakes.

    1.JPG 2.jpg

    Martin
     
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  12. terry jenkins

    terry jenkins New Member

    that's why you ask when don't know thanks for the help
     
  13. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Sorry about that Terry. Collect yourself a genuine one, if you want. Plenty of the Alexandrian tetradrachms are available at modest prices. Let us know if you need any advice. :)
     
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  15. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    @terry jenkins don't let this discourage you! Ancients are great.

    Here's a coin I have, similar in some ways to the authentic version of yours (different ruler, different reverse)

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    Probus, AD 276-282
    Billon, tetradrachm, 7.5g, 20mm; 11h; Alexandria, AD 276/277 (regnal year 2)
    Obv.: A K M AVP PPO-BOC CEB; laureate cuirassed bust right
    Rev.: LB; Dikaiosyne standing left holding scales & cornucopiae
    Ref.: Geissen 3127, Dattari 5527
    Dikaiosyne is a personification or spirit of justice and righteousness. Her primary sources include Orphic hymns and Philostratus.
     
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  16. terry jenkins

    terry jenkins New Member

    oh I have books of coins from all around the world. paper money I cant even begain to under stand were its all from.thanks for the help
     
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  17. okejos

    okejos New Member

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    Hi folks... what you think about this coins ? fake?
    greetings
     
  18. okejos

    okejos New Member

    and this 4 coins. i connect photos for
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  19. Kentucky

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    @okejos, you stand more chance of someone seeing this if you start a new thread from the Forums page.
     
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