ANA Collection's Counterfeits and Altered Coins

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Shortgapbob, Jul 14, 2007.

  1. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    I must admit, it has been great working in the ANA's collection this summer. The past few days, we have been cleaning up parts of the collection, including the counterfeit collection. The ANA has these counterfeits for educational purposes, as well as to take them off of the market. I have seen a wide variety of counterfeits including the 1909-S VDB, 1914-D Lincolns, Trade Dollars, Buffalos with added mintmarks, Bust Dollars, and many more.

    There was a 1916-S Bufalo in an old ANA Official Grading Service Holder that was later proven to be an masterfully added mintmark. There was also an ultra-grade (65/66) 1926-S that was an added mintmark. The first giveaway on the 1926-S was that it was a crisp, strong strike, something that date just doesn't have......unless its a Philly coin with an added S.

    The most interesting thing I saw, was a complete type set of mostly contemporary counterfeit coins, including many coins one normally doesn't see counterfeited. I saw fake 3 cent silvers, fake Franklins, fake Walkers, fake common Indian cents, fake Busties, and more. There was a contemporary counterfeit of a 1921 Philly Lincoln Wheat Cent....I can honestly saw I had never seen that coin faked before. I even saw an amazing electrotype of an 1804 cent that had all of the proper alignment of the obverse and reverse.......just a nice seam along the edge. :rolling:

    I have learned a ton about counterfeit and altered coins just by looking at this incredible collection.
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    That must have been a blast!
    Did they have a fake 1967 quarter?

    (I know someone who has one.)
     
  4. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Where do they put that collection on display? And do you think they will ever digitalize their library?

    Ruben
     
  5. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    that must be something to behold, I've only seen a few counterfeits in my time.
     
  6. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    The library catalog is digitalized at www.money.org But to digitalized every book in there? That would take people, time, and resources that the ANA just doesn't have right now. Also, they do not display the counterfeit collection at the moment.
     
  7. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Cool. :) Are you getting paid to help out???
     
  8. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    Yes, the interns do get paid a small stipend to help out at the ANA.
     
  9. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    There were a couple contemporary counterfeit quarters, including a 1965. I don't remember seeing a 67 though.
     
  10. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Room, board, and a little cash for the pocket. Sounds like a neat summer job. :)
     
  11. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Oh, its great! (I'm the other intern). Only problem is, with the wide array of coin shops, etc around here.. that stipend doesn't last very long. Lol.
     
  12. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    Where are they? Generaly there aren't many in New York.

    Ruben
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Ruben:
    They are talking about the ANA headquarters:
    ANA Headquarters
    818 North Cascade Avenue
    Colorado Springs, CO 80903

    Phone: 719-632-2646
    Fax: 719-634-4085
    Email: ana@money.org
     
  14. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    I thought the ANA was on William Street

    Ruben
     
  15. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Isn't that the ANS?

    Speedy
     
  16. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    The ANS is on Fulton Street in New York, even though their was a recent article about them selling their building.

    The ANA is located in Colorado Springs, CO.
     
  17. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

    I came across an Omega counter fit double eagle at a coin show a couple weeks ago. I had never seen one before, and it was very interesting to see the dealers reaction when a fourteen year old kid told him a double eagle was fake.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Good on ya :thumb: But did you also tell him that it might well be worth more than a genuine example ?
     
  19. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes, quite often they are.
     
  21. codydude815

    codydude815 Wannabe coin dealer

    Oh wow, never knew that! Thanks for the info!
     
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