An obscure bronze of Aegina

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  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    For the better part of two hundred years, between the 6th and the 4th centuries BC, the turtle and tortoise staters of Aegina were some of the most widely-used of Greek coins, and today remain amongst the most iconic types for collectors. Just at a glance, this bronze coin wouldn't be recognised by most as an issue of Aegina, having neither turtle nor tortoise. It was struck long after the Aeginetans were finished as a major power in the Mediterranean, and was made strictly for local use. Obscure, uncommon, and right up my alley, then :).

    When I first found it in mixed lot last year, I thought it was a charming and interesting little bronze. I hadn't seen one before, and couldn't find any other examples outside of reference books. In any case, I put it away and had quite forgotten about it until I came across a similar type in a recently concluded auction. Mine isn't in a grade that will appeal to well-heeled collectors, but the one in the auction apparently was. I'm glad to finally see what a nice one of these looks like, but am still plenty happy with mine.

    Please feel free to post your coins of Aegina, I'd be more than happy to see them.

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    ATTICA, Aegina
    Circa 3rd-2nd centuries BC
    AE17
    3.86g, 16.7mm
    BMC Attica p.144, 230-232; SNG Cop 541
    O: AIΓI, prow.
    R: Ram's head right; AΓΛA below.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Don't have the ram coin, but I certainly would like one. And there is nothing wrong with this grade. Right up my alley.

    ATTICA AEGINA aa.jpg
     
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  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    @Bing...dang I want one of those!!
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Thanks @Kentucky, but mine is not very pretty. Some of the folks here have some real beautiful turtles. I think @zumbly has at least one.
     
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  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Oh...I know there are some BEAUTIFUL ones, but even yours is nice and I might have the dough to buy it without refinancing my house.
     
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    @Kentucky one of the nice things about these beyond the fact that it's iconic, is the fat and heavy buggers. My is 11.96g, 20mm.
    ATTICA, AEGINA Side view.jpg
     
  8. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    another cool coin i've never seen before Z! i dig it when a lot turns up a cool but obscure coin.
     
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  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I must have mentioned it before, but I think your turtle's really nice. Mine is paddling off to one side, but like yours has a couple of interesting countermarks.

    Aegina stater c.jpg

    Now that we've had a couple of swimmers, let's see the crawlers.

    Something else I'd love to have from Aegina is a smaller denomination turtle.
     
  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Wow, that's interesting! A bronze from Aegina, and sans iconic turtle? Very cool. Glad you were able to nail down the ID :)

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    ISLANDS OFF ATTICA, Aegina
    456/45-431 BCE
    AR stater; 20mm, 12.32 g
    Obv: land tortoise, head in profile, with segmented shell
    Rev: large square incuse with skew pattern
    Ref: SNG Delepierre 1774ff; BMC Taf. 24.11
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    This obol was a hasty purchase and I wish I'd held out for one with better centering.

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    ISLANDS off ATTICA, Aegina
    475-470 BCE
    AR obol; 0.97 gm
    Obv: sea turtle with single row of dots on back
    Rev: windmill-shaped incuse punch
    Ref: SNG Delepierre 1511; SNG Cop. 505
     
  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I really love those side shots of your land tortoise, TIF. And on the top down view he just looks like a total boss, sitting smugly dead center on his little silver rock :D.
     
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  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I'm still missing the 'turtle' types and now, thanks to @zumbly, I'm aware of another type I'm missing:mad:;)......

    Cool coins everyone!!!:)
     
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