An angel on a sleigh - or is it Victory?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Pellinore, Jul 24, 2018.

  1. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Inspired by this thread and the coin of @brittannia40, here's a pic of the follis I bought the other week. The angel (or Victory) appears to be rapidly shooting past on a sleigh due to the oval form of the shield and the parallel forms of her dress and spear.



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    Constantiopolis cities series (330-354). AE reduced follis, Antioch. Obv. Laureate and helmeted bust of Constantinopolis l. Rev. Victory standing left on prow, holding spear and resting on shield. 17 mm, 2.96 gr.
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Very nice example, with a well-rendered Victoria.
     
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  4. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    The lettering on the obverse is a bit soft, but I went for the reverse.
     
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  5. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Perhaps a forerunner of the Italian Alpine troops of WWI ;)

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  6. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    That's a great reverse @Pellinore - usually they are not quite so well designed and struck.
     
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  7. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Here's mine:
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    Time of Constantine I, AD 306 - 337
    EA, 1.7g, 19mm; 6h; Thessalonica, Greece
    Obv.: CONSTAN-TINOPOLIS; bust left, laur. helmet, wearing imperial cloak, reversed spear
    Rev.: Victory standing left on prow holding spear and shield
    In Ex.: SMTS⌂

    Mine is not as nice.
     
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  8. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    But I like the city god's red cheeks and Victory positively paddling on her surfboard.

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  9. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    I think there was some overlap in the victory to angel transition just as there was with the chthonic nymph to Nike transition. I was reading a work by Bruno Snell last night that discussed the emergence of proper nouns from earlier adjectival and verbal word forms in archaic Greek linguistics. Makes sense that the epithet of victory would eventually become a figure of its own. So perhaps a victorious Angel or angelic Victory?
     
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  10. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    I just wrote a bit about that in a recent post-


    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/5-new-romans.320381/#post-3141010
     
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  11. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    As it turned out, I also have a slightly different Victory on Prow, not surfing the waves but in the act of stepping up her board, from Siscia.

    Constantine I. AE follis Siscia, officina A 330-335. Obv. Helmeted bust to left, sceptre over shoulder. CONSTANTINOPOLIS. Victory standing left on prow, holding shield and lance. ASIS. 17.5 mm, 2.33 gr. RIC VII, 324. LRBC I, 746.

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