AMERICAN EAGLE COLLECTORS...Need answers

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by girldly, Aug 7, 2015.

  1. girldly

    girldly Girldly

    HELLO FELLOW COLLECTORS!
    I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF AMERICAN EAGLE COINS, SILVER OR GOLD, INCREASE IN VALUE AS THE YEARS PASS. IF SO, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE? I AM REFERING TO PROOFS, UNCIRCULATED PURCHASED FROM THE US MINT, WITH BOX AND COA.
    I AM AWARE OF THE MELT DOWN PRICE, BUT AS FAR AS COLLECTORS...CAN ANYONE GIVE ME ANY INFORMATION?
    Example: A 2011 SILVER AMERICAN EAGLE "W" PROOF. WHAT WOULD A COLLECTOR PAY FOR THIS?
    Example: The National Baseball Hall of Fame Silver Dollar proof from 2014, 1 oz. Will these become desired someday by collectors?
    Example: A 2011 GOLD Proof "W" 1/4 oz., AMERICAN EAGLE
    Example: America the Beautiful, George Washington Quarter/Washington State proof 5 ounce silver coin.
    NOTE: All of the above have their boxes and coa.
    Please tell me how to determine an approximate price a collector would pay, verses, the melt down value.
    Did I purchase the wrong way by going thru the U.S. mint?
    Over the years, I have many American Eagles, which I list in my record keeping....I was just curious what you know to be true about the costs of American Eagle coins as the years roll on. Am I making the right or wrong investment? Please be honest, I can take it.
    I SEE SO MANY DIFFERENT PRICES ON EBAY MY HEAD SWIMS. I have never purchased from EBay, are they any good?
    WHICH YEARS ARE THE MOST VALUABLE? WHAT DOES A COLLECTOR LOOK FOR WHEN CONSIDERING PURCHASING AN AMERICAN EAGLE? WHAT IS THE MOST DESIREABLE?
    As a rule, most of my collection are proofs and 1 oz. Some are uncirculated. Did I make a BIG MISTAKE purchasing these all these years?
    Thank you for any help you can offer me.
    Girldly
     
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  3. recyclemonster

    recyclemonster New Member

    Depends on how much you paid for everything. Sounds like you paid too much...and isn't it too late to ask these things...should have done sum research or got them cheap enuf not to worry bout it later....
     
  4. girldly

    girldly Girldly

    Not worried. Just wondered if collectors like them.
     
  5. Sidingguy

    Sidingguy New Member

    Its always a good investment buying silver...The prices rise and fall, but if you have the time and patience, You'll be rewarding yourself many times over with these beautiful silver coins...The 1995 W American Silver Eagle is the king of the series..Only minted to be part of a set that included the gold American Eagles, so relatively few were ever minted...If you have one of these, it is worth more than your present collection. The 2011 25th anniversary set is another example of rare American Eagles...Only 100,000 were minted and it contains 3 coins that are unique to that set...The set cost 300.00 from the mint and sold out in just a matter of hours...When they were delivered, the price from private collectors and dealers doubled or more (much more). Yet this is still a good investment! I was lucky enough to get mine from the mint before they sold out and I prize this set still. There are a few other sets that have some nice values too and are all available on Ebay and/or other auction sites..
    The National Baseball Hall of Fame Silver Dollar proof from 2014, 1 oz. has gone way up in value, so that alone should tell you why your investment is a sound one...Not every coin goes up that fast, but they almost always go up...
     

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  6. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    2011 was NOT a good year to buy Silver Eagles from the US Mint.

    My 10 coin uncirculated subscription cost me $604.50 plus $4.95 shipping. No way in hades could I sell one of those coins and recoup my costs.

    I purchased two 2011 AE Proof coins at $59.95 each earlier in the year before Silver hit its high. I "Might" be able to recover "most" of the costs but it's unlikely given selling fees and such.

    Is it smart to buy directly from the US Mint? Only if you do your homework OR don't mind gambling that silver will go up.

    To answer the question of "Which Years are the most Valuable"? 2008 Rev of 2007. Every thing else, REGARDLESS OF GRADE, can be a huge loser.

    I recently sold an MS70 Silver eagle in open bidding at a slight loss over what I paid for it after shipping and selling fee's.

    The PRICE of SILVER and GOLD Eagles is directly related to the market price of BULLION plus the US Mints Markup which can be extreme. Be very very careful about purchasing Silver Eagles with regard to expecting the prices to go up since you WILL be disappointed. Instead, collect what you like and to heck with everything else.
     
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  7. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Silver is a terrible investment at this point in time as prices have been sliding for MONTHS. Between January 2014 and today, Silver has dropped by 27% which means that a 1% Savings Account would have paid much better.

    Silver is nothing more than a commodity and the market has been glutted to the tune of 100 million or more ounces a year.
     
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Silver goes up and silver goes down. Now is a good time to buy silver. It's low. Can it go lower? Yes. You'll never buy at the bottom or sell at the top. If you try, you'll be a loser every time.
     
  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Every coin is a different deal. You must study the prices of just that coin. Look at the prices on ebay of just that coin and only the ones that actually sell. Not all of them that are listed that don't sell.
    Many will go up when they first come out but will fall way down over time. Some of the best buys were the Dollar Comms in MS when they first came out. Look at the current prices of the Olympic comms in MS.
     
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  10. Agreed. A specific coin's monetary worth is what someone will pay for it. Best way to gauge that is eBay actual SOLD sales (not completed sales and definitely not listings). The SOLD prices will give you a range of what your coin is worth in the marketplace. Silver value is pretty much a floor, but a good number of mint items carry a numismatic premium. Good luck recouping the amount you paid given fees, supplies, shipping, time, etc.
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The 95W ASE was probably one of the best modern deals ever bought from the mint.
     
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  12. CHUCKCXB

    CHUCKCXB Active Member

    I would like to add a question to his .... everyone has bullion issued ASEs , but how many collect UNC ASEs from the mint special process , is it really different ?
     
  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not me. I'm not into that. I buy the cheapest silver I can in any form I can get. In the end, it's only worth the price of an ounce of silver, less the selling fee.
     
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  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Last I looked this coin was 26.73 grams. Unless you guys are talkin' about something different.

    Modest gains over issue price for the dollar coins. Nice appreciation over issue price for the gold pieces.
     
  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Only because it was a bonus coin with the 4-coin gold set with a very low mintage and most silver eagle collectors didn't learn of it's availability until it was already sold out.

    Chris
     
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  16. mac266

    mac266 Well-Known Member

    That's a silly argument. Let's say you bought silver a few years ago at $20 an ounce. Today it's below $15 an ounce. A loss? NO, the simple answer is DON'T SELL! It will go over $20 again someday, so you sell then. The thing about silver and other precious metals is they have no shelf life. Just hold on to them until the price is right.
     
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  17. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    That's one way of looking at it but its also not how collectors work.

    Silver Eaqle collectors value their coins at what the market values them at and in that arena, silver has been a terrible investment.

    I could only hope to live long enough for silver to hit $50 an ounce again. Or even $30 an ounce.

    Silver Eagles as Collector coins, on the other hand, can fair far better as long as buyers are paying attention such as what occurred in the 10th Anniversary Eagles Sets and the 20th and 25th Anniversary Silver Eagle Sets.

    But again, those values are only achieved when and if "they are sold".
     
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  18. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    A lot of collectors purchase these every year. But..........2011 was a lousy year to buy them due to the US Mints mark up. It was probably the ONLY year where the 2011-W Uncirculated SAE actually sold for more than the 2011-W Proof coin from the US Mint.
    Of course, 2011 also marked the 25th Anniversary of the program with the 5 coin Anniversary Sets selling for $1200 each due to a 5 Household ordering limit for a product that was limited to 100,000 sets. These sold out within 3 hours of going on sale but should NOT be confused with the regular 2011 Bullion pieces nor the individually priced Proof and Uncirculated versions.
    2012 and 2013 had their own SAE sets but these have simply not done a doggoned thing due to tighter ordering limits and higher production limits (supply and demand).

    Be very careful about the prices paid for the Uncirculated examples from the US Mint since their prices are in fact tied to the value of bullion and the only difference between them and the bullion pieces is that W Mint mark and some fancy packaging.
     
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  19. girldly

    girldly Girldly

    Thank you for this information. I have learned so much. I will hold on to my gold and silver American Eagles for a long time. As mentioned, it may go up, at that time, I will consider selling. They are so pretty to me, the luster is lovely. I just realized what a girl type statement that is, but, can't help that. Anyway, thank you for all your information. I really like the baseball collection I acquired from the mint. That is cool too. Yes, it was over-priced, but, never touched by hands, and encapsulated...I like that. One final question, is there any reason to ever have them graded since all of them are encapsulated? (I hope that term is correct, if not, please do not ridicule me)...I am still learning, and l love coins so much. Thank you fellow collectors.
     
  20. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    If you wanted them slabbed and graded, your best to buy them this way initially. You know your grade before hand and dealers get excellent pricing on bulk quantities. Another savings you can capitalize on. You may pay more for the same results doing it afterward.
     
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  21. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    I'd hold 'em for a few more years and then trade 'em to Uncle Sam for beans and rice....;)
     
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