I see that as of yesterday (March 24, 2016) acsearch.com https://www.acsearch.info/ no longer gives prices realized without a paying subscription which costs 85 euros per year. You can still see lots of coins meeting your search criterion, just not the prices they brought. They provided a very valuable service for years and it was, remarkably, free. Now they are monetizing it. It has value, so I can understand. I suppose all good things must come to an end. Now the decision is whether to pay for a "premium account."
I will probably buy an account, not for prices realized(though they are useful), but for the pre-1999 catalogs they are digitizing. The amount for a year subscription is not significantly more than I've already spent on catalogs this year so it sounds like a decent deal to me, especially in comparison to CoinArchives.
Yeah, I just noticed that as well and I'm disappointed but not at all surprised. I find the fee a bit stiff, so I'm undecided and will use the still free Heritage comparable sales prices as a 'guide' for now.
I don't care about the prices as explained in the other thread on this subject but I would really like to see the quality of the coins added from old catalogs. Obviously they can't be better than the old catalog picture but I remain curious. "Digitalisation of old auction catalogues: we have been working for several months on adding old auction catalogues to the database to facilitate pedigree research. So far, we have digitalized 121 catalogues from 1901-1938 with more than 60’000 coins. All these entries are included to the full-text search and are at disposal to users with a Premium-Account. We will also continuously be adding more catalogues during the next months. If you would like to participate in the project by donating pre-1999 catalogues (especially complete series), please contact us by email – we greatly appreciate any assistance." 60,000 is not many but I hope they eventually fill the gap before 1999 as completely as they can.
No shit, as long as I can see the coins, who cares what the coins prices were. I am not a high end collector for it to matter.
Very interesting. This could give the ex-Numis pedigree search some competition but the early 20th Century catalogues that they list in their index are already free online.
They deserve to ask for compensation for using the site. It's a lot of work and sites like CoinArchives charge MUCH more for a Pro membership. Alternatively, if you don't want to pay, you can register with all the various auction companies and sift through results yourself... or pay the higher BP when you buy from firms like Heritage that "don't charge" you to access their archives. It's just a matter of perspective and how much information is worth if you want to save money bidding and buying coins at accurate market prices.
For me, I am with you, Mat. I have bought over 500 'Ancients' and I haven't sold a single one, (not even the 499 'rubbish' coins), so the prices don't worry me, either. (I do recognize that some have been looking to Acsearch for a price guide, and they might have to make an adjustment.)
Well luckily I never really used it before, so I'll merely continue on my merry way, totally oblivious ... ... and lovin' it!!
Not having those PR is a bummer, but I appreciate that it is a commercial venture and that they should receive compensation. And, it is cheaper than CoinArchives. Honestly the majority of those paying will be dealers. But, if you know the market fairly well the prices wont mean much as you will already have an idea. Its just when you have that odd rarity that you may need values. I wish them well in their endeavor.
Anybody know why acsearch.info includes auctions of many US dealers, such as Heritage, Goldberg, Pegasi, Stack's Bowers, Stephen Album and even the defunct Freeman & Sear, but not CNG?!?
Information is proprietary, even with auction results. CNG owns the information and I assume they have no agreement with them to include their sales.
Anybody know if the pro version of CoinArchives also covers the information from old auctions (let's say pre-2000) as well? if so, what part of the database it is?
Without info from one of the largest and most respected sellers of ancient coins in the world, I find paying for it makes no sense for me.
I could be wrong but I think they are the same company (or closely affiliated). I cant remember. It likely why SixBid is not searchable (for closed auctions) and ACSearch is.
CA Pro goes back to about 2000 or 2001. It does not have old auction catalogues but it does have CNG.
Premium: Features Auction archive from 1999 Best possible image resolution Bookmark lists Auction archive before 1999 Price information That is what is on my opening screen after I bought it.
