ALEXANDER III 'The Great' - is it?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Topcat7, Oct 19, 2016.

  1. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I believe that this coin is Alexander III 'The Great', because, (on the reverse), the coin has the word Alexander (in Greek) in the right field, and Zeus' legs are 'uncrossed', but, I cannot pin down an attribution. (Of course, I could be wrong, too.)
    Can anyone help me with a 'Reference' for this coin, please?

    Obv: Head of Herakles right wearing lion-skin headress,
    Rev: Zeus(?) seated, legs 'uncrossed', right arm outstretched holding an eagle, over an ithyphallic herm in left field. Left hand resting on (vertical) sceptre. AΛEXANΔΡOY in right field with BAΣIΛEΩΣ in exergue. 'A' beneath chair.
    AR 27.1 mm., 14.37 gm.
    Magical Snap - 2016.10.20 11.46 - 063a.jpg Magical Snap - 2016.10.20 11.47 - 064a.jpg
     
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  3. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    It's a tad light for a tetradrachm. I'm not even sure it's real.
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I have to agree with @Paul M. The entire coin, front and back, seems wrong. But, hey, I'm not and expert. I hope Paul and I are wrong.
     
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  5. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I'm not sure that the weight is a problem. These coins seem to vary quite a bit depending on size. (See 'Wildwinds', Price 3531 var. 28.14 mm., 14.53 gm.) Price_3531_var.jpg
     
  6. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Your "A" under the throne might alternatively be an "ivy leaf" ?
     
  7. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I think not. This is what an 'Ivy leaf' under a chair looks like. Price_1554.jpg
     
  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I think it is a Celtic imitation.
     
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  9. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @TypeCoin971793
    I think you might have something, there.
    Let me read up on it, (tomorrow - past my bed-time here).
    Thanks.
     
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  10. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

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  11. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I have to admit, despite my lack of expertise, I also suspect it's a cast fake---it simply looks too 'mushy' among other things.

    Below are two examples of 'Celtic Imitations'---one obviously stylized and the other identified as 'Celtic' primarily due to the crude lettering as far as I can tell.


    http://www.cngcoins.com/Coins.aspx?CATEGORY_ID=5522&VIEW_TYPE=0
     
  12. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    I think its an Original Tet from Arados like Dionysos found out.
    probably dug up from a riverbed or lake, smoothed by 2000 years of rubbing
    by sand and stones.
     
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  13. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Interesting possibility @Andres2

    Naturally, I hope you're correct:)
     
  14. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    wow..i don't know on that one. where did you get it TC?
     
  15. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

  16. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @chrsmat71 - I got it from 'white.wolf36' on ebay.

    @Dionysos - very close but Herakles hair is different in many areas.
     
  17. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Assuming if it is real, it looks like the coin was badly preserved making it look almost debased. Since these types were not debased then it is possible the silver was chemically leached from the coin due to poor burial conditions, which would explain the weight. I handled a Alexandrian Tet that was so leached that it weighed only a gram or two and felt as light as a wafer in hand.
     
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  18. MarcosX

    MarcosX Active Member

    how is the edge look?, coin seems to have some delamination / flaking
     
  19. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

    I fail to see the differences between these 2 personally, other than what would come out of a different lighting / pic angle / wear...

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  20. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    Some photos
    Magical Snap - 2016.10.21 06.26 - 069.jpg Magical Snap - 2016.10.21 06.27 - 070.jpg Magical Snap - 2016.10.21 06.27 - 071.jpg Magical Snap - 2016.10.21 06.27 - 072.jpg
     
  21. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i'm leaning toward cast fake that has been beat up a bit to try and disguise it.
     
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