AE as -- Iberia, Belikio

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  1. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I won this bronze recently and went after it simply because it appealed to me (grade and devices) and it was of a type I was missing---plus it's well centered and it seems a bit scarce.

    AE as; Iberia, Belikio, 28.9 mm, 14.69 grams (circa 100-70 BC)
    Male head right, Iberian BE behind.
    Horseman right, holding spear, Iberian inscription below.
    ACIP 1433; SNG BM Spain 763-70, Burgos 243

    Please post any coin even remotely related.
    Agora, belikio Iberia male head and horseman.jpg
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That's a nice coin and one I would like to find. I can only find an Iberian coin to post:
    IBERIAN Castulo 2.jpg
    IBERIAN
    AE Semis
    OBVERSE: Young male head right, Phoenician letter before
    REVERSE: Bull right, crescent above, two Phoenicial letters below
    Struck at Castulo Late 1st century BC
    15.6mm, 1.8g
    Burgos 897
     
  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that's a solid example of the type MZ, very nice.

    i have one of these on the list...but here is my favorite iberian coin...from obulco instead of belikio...similar time frame and size however.


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  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Wow, Mikey, you are making some killer captures lately! Well done, gorgeous coin!
     
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  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Interesting how all three coins posted were struck at similar periods of time yet the styling varies significantly. I haven't researched this very much but it seems the OP is more Carthaginian/Roman, Mat's example a bit more stylized and Bing's the epitome of Celtic.

    Sigh, So much yet to learn.....
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Here is my little gem from Iberia... Roughly contemporary to yours, and similar...

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    Celtiberia, Secaisa
    AE As, 25mm, 8.5g, 5h;
    2nd to early-1st centuries BC.
    Obv.: Male head right flanked by dolphins.
    Rev.: Horseman galloping right holding spear // SECaISA in Iberian script.
    Reference: SNG Copenhagen 363ff.
    Lifted from the hands of Ionnes Antonius (@John Anthony )
     
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  8. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    AHA!! So that's where I first noticed the type LOL

    That's cool!! I wonder how many variated from the 'typical' (?) male head and galloping horseman...?

    So I'm guessing mine spells "Belikio' on the reverse?
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Excellent question! Curious how many of the Celtiberian cities copied each other, and/or if the Romans directed their local coinage by this time... Enquiring minds are not doing their research here... :D

    Yeah, I WONDERED if this little gem jogged your head into searching. When I went through my album to put some coins away, I saw this one and gawked when I saw how CLOSE of a design it was to YOURS! Wow, they are probably cousins! :) Reckon that would make us Coin-Cousins (@Bing, stay out of this... We know what WV is ALLLLL about... LOL)
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Looks like yours got the Herculean jaw, and I got a FAT HORSE! Looks like a jockey on a Budweiser draft horse!
     
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  11. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Good one 'Al' LOl...And I got the 'old dude' with a beard...Hey just like me.:eek:

    For those at all interested---the alphabetic script and other stuff on PDF:
     

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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yeeeehaaaaa => man, that's a great OP-addition, Mikey-Z (congrats)

    Iberia? => oh yeah, I've got a winner from Iberia ...


    ISLANDS off IBERIA, Ebusus. Æ Quarter Unit
    2nd century BC
    Diameter: 17 mm
    Weight: 3.28 grams
    Obverse: Squatting Kabeiros, holding hammer and serpent
    Reverse: Bull butting left
    Reference: ACIP 719; SNG BM Spain 318-21


    Islands off Iberia Ebusus.jpg
     
  13. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    Spain, Ekualakos
    Æ Unit (As) 25mm, 9.86 grams
    Circa 150-100 BC
    Male head right; dolphin to right
    Horseman galloping to right with couched spear.
    ACIP 1846; AB 970; CNH 2; SNG BM Spain 1031-5

    Spain, Ekualakos Æ Unit (As). Circa 150-100 BC.jpg Spain, Ekualakos Æ Unit (As). Circa 150-100 BC.jpg

    Sorry about the double pic.
     
  14. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    WOW !! Steve, That's a wonderful fun coin (Squatting dude).... with a cool bull too!!

    And JB's looks a lot more 'Roman' !! LOVE "EM!! Hmm, I just made an appointment with the VA eye doctor just in time...Yikes I'm seeing double and I haven't had one beer yet:p:D
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Holding hammer and serpent!! .... what?!!
     
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  16. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I just googled Kabeiros and it suggests a few things like a ..."sea divinity' and the 'Blacksmith cult god' and that's news to me, but it makes sense with the use of the serpent and hammer devices....WAYYYY COOOL!!!
     
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  17. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice pickup, Mikey. They liked this design in Iberia, eh. Mine from Bolskan makes for the fourth city in this thread.

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  18. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I think they were either VERY lazy, unimaginative or had the same 'family' of engravers galloping around the countryside LOL
     
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  19. Hispanicus

    Hispanicus Stand Fast!

    This is a thread I've been waiting for. Ran across it this morning at a cafe near my office and almost had to turn around and go home to post a couple of my own Iberians. Here it goes:

    Iberia, Sekobrices
    AE As, 30 mm, 10.55g
    160 BC
    Obv: Male head right with dolphin in front, palm leaf behind.
    Rev: Horseman right, Sekobrices above exergue.

    This one caught my attention because it is an example of that classic post Carthaginian As that so many of the Iberian cities used. I've gone back and forth trying to figure out which culture influenced the design and am now leaning towards the Greeks since the hair and nose on the obverse has a striking similarity to an AR coin shown in JBGood's post on Thessaly (second OP coin). The curly almost geometric pattern of the hair is very similar as is the rather strong bridge of the nose.
    Seko Obv.jpg
    Seko Rev.jpg
    Coin #2:
    Iberia, Castulo
    AE As, 30 mm, 15.2g (yeah, its thick and hefty, as real money should be).
    180 BC
    Obv: Diademed male head right; hand before
    Rev: helmeted sphinx walking right; star before
    Castulo Obv.jpg
    Castulo rev.jpg
    This coin is fascinating for a number of reasons. The first being that Castulo was an ally of Carthage until the Romans paid them off in the 2nd Punic war causing them to switch sides. The second reason is that my paternal great grandfather came from a town very close to where Castulo was located. I'm not sure which culture influenced this design but when my dad went to visit relatives a few years ago he brought back pictures of what appeared to be clay amphorae containing their local "day to day" wine that looked exactly like the clay vessels you would see in a Greek museum.

    Please post your Iberians!
     
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ooow, I didn't realize that my Castulo would also fit into this thread ...

    Spain Castulo Sphinx.jpg


    ... ummm, and perhaps my Augustus from Celsa is also a contender, eh?

    Augustus AE As Celsa Bull.jpg

    => Iberian coins rock!!

    :rolleyes:
     
  21. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Kingdom of Iberia right?
    I've got nothing there but Iberian peninsula I have a few.
     
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