Advice Requested - 1964 Kennedy DDO, Uncirculated in plastic

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by JohnT, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. JohnT

    JohnT Newbismatist

    Hey all,

    This is what I have:
    1964 Uncirc DDO0.jpg 1964 Uncirc DDO1.jpg

    I recently purchased two unopened 1964 mint sets and finally decided to look a bit closer. One was a normal strike, but the other has doubling. I've verified both by looking through a loupe. I think there is other doubling, but I can't tell because I can't see clearly through the plastic.

    If you were to sell something like this, how would you approach it? Send it directly to get graded and confirmed as an error? Sell it as-is and take the best pictures possible? Remove from the plastic then take photos and try to identify the DDO-###? Or another option? I'm trying to get the best bang for my buck.

    All suggestions are quite welcome... and as always, thanks for entertaining my posts!
     
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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Nice catch! Looks like Coneca DDO-007. NGC shows a pop of 3. 1 each MS 63, 64, 65. I'd have it graded without hesitation.
     
  4. JohnT

    JohnT Newbismatist

    Thank you, Sir! Looking closer, it appears the W is connected deep into the base of the bust. Would you go with NGC for the grading service? I've never had a coin graded, so I'm treading in new territory. Also, do you have a link to the NGC page that shows the pop? I'm looking, but not finding.
     
  5. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Good catch. I agree it is a true DDO, with those split serifs showing definitely on the "W".
    And I agree with Rick. Grad it.
     
  6. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Beautiful split serifs! Grading is a good choice.
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    NGC shows 2 in MS65.

    Chris
     
  8. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    If you are planning on selling it, PCGS might be a better alternative for grading. PCGS seems to command a greater premium overall.

    PCGS has a much higher population than NGC, though.
     
  9. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    You're right. Sorry about that.
     
  10. JohnT

    JohnT Newbismatist

    Thanks again! The closest NGC dealer is 60 miles away, but I have a PCGS 20 miles away... going with PCGS! :)

    Thanks all for the feedback! I'll post a message with a final result!
     
  11. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I'll be here waiting to hear! Let's hope for at least a 68!
     
  12. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    BEFORE you go running off and spending $38 plus whatever shipping your dealer charges to have this coin graded as a DDO-007, be aware that a DDO-007 is NOT a Proof coin but a Business Strike. In other words, all you'll get is DDO Minor Variety on the Slab label for your $24 Variety Attribution Fee.

    From the CONECA Kennedy Half Dollar Book, that G looks like DDO-020 (which IS a proof coin) but you'll need to take photographs of more than just the G and W.

    If you want a Ballpark attribution, post photo's of the entire Motto and back off the magnification just a smidge.

    Include a photo of the entire Obverse of the coin as well.

    A PCGS DDO Minor Variety won't buy you much for Value and PCGS will NOT accurately attribute the coin for its "specific DDO number other than to agree that it is a DDO.

    IF you want to know exactly what it is, send it to CONECA.

    http://conecaonline.org/content/coneca_attributions.html
     
  13. JohnT

    JohnT Newbismatist

    This coin came from one of those yellow envelopes with the coins sealed in flimsy plastic, not the hard plastic sets. I honestly don't know if those have "proof" strikes, but it doesn't look like the hard plastic proof sets I have. Would this still be considered a "proof" strike?
     
  14. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    You live in Alexandria and the closest dealer who submits to NGC is 60 miles away?

    Chris
     
  15. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Yes. Proof coins were not sealed in "hard Plastic cases" until 1968. Before that they came in yellowish envelopes sealed in a flat cello package. There should be a silver background & blue lettering thingy sealed in one of the cello cells that says US Mint Philadelphia.

    Mint Doo Dah!
    Proof Token.jpg

    1964 US Mint Proof Set.

    1964 US Mint Proof Set-D.jpg
     
  16. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I just did a quick search using the "Dealer Locator" on the NGC site, and there are other NGC dealers much closer.

    http://www.ngccoin.com/services/dealer-listing.aspx
     
  17. JohnT

    JohnT Newbismatist

    Just checked again, it's actually 40 miles (in Glen Burnie). Still seems a bit far to me as well.
     
  18. JohnT

    JohnT Newbismatist

    I like that plan. I'd take a better photo, but I can't get a good shot through the plastic and I really don't want to open it myself. Also I have one of those digital microscopes that is either 50x or 200x... and 50x doesn't really show the doubling that well through the plastic.

    Thanks for the info!
     
  19. JohnT

    JohnT Newbismatist

    Huh, funky. I was entering my zip... but it looks like city/state gives better result. Thanks!
     
  20. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Move the coin with in the plastic.

    Once CONECA determines which DDO it is, you can ask them to forward it to ANACS who will grade it and encapsulate it with the proper attribution. I think its $15 oplus return shipping.

    Of course, the ANACS slab will be as helpful on resale value as the PCGS DDO Minor Variety but the reality is that unless the coin's die number is listed in the CPG, PCGS will not attribute it correctly. Most Kennedy Collectors I know care more about the die variety than the slab which holds it.
     
  21. atrox001

    atrox001 Senior Member

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