Advice on 100 millionen mark

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  1. Handy man

    Handy man Member

    I can not for the life of me find info anywhere on this serie A,I have found serie B,any help on pointing me in the right direction or info I would greatly appreciate it IMG_20170921_151001546.jpg
     
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  3. brandon spiegel

    brandon spiegel Brandon Spiegel

    It definitely looks like a note from the German Hyperinflation of the early to mid 1920s, I am not too familiar with the specific series though.
     
  4. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Looks like it is from Aachen would make it appear to be notgeld. But I did not think they did notgeld in such high denominations. I don't have a notgeld catalog with pictures so I have nothing to compare it to.

    I was not able to locate it in the World Money catalog. The only 100 million mark note issued by Germany in 1923 does not look like yours and was issued 22nd August.
     
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  6. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    @sakata is correct, it's an Inflation Notgeld Note from issued by the City of Aachen. Duetsches Notgeld Vol 4 (the volume that covers Inflation Notgeld) only goes up to June 1923 and your note is dated July 1923, so I couldn't find a reference number. Aachen issued a lot of paper and metal notgeld.
     
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  7. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Do you have a reference for Deutsches Notgeld? Seems like a book I should have in my library.
     
  8. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    They are titled Deutsches Notgeld ,Band 1-6 (vol 1-6). I have 6 of them but not sure if there are any more. Various Authors. Paperback. Published by Gietl Verlag. Generally Notgeld from 1916-1922. Alles auf Deutsch. Good for looking up the thousands and thousands of cheap colorful notgeld notes. I think I bought the set about 10 years ago from Paul Landsberg at Ephesus Coins on V Coins. I can't remember but they may have been around $25-30 each. I used to buy the cheap "100 diff notgeld" lots years ago and ended up with a decent accumulation that I want to organize into a collection. The problem is that unless your very specialized, you'll want all 6 volumes.

    I like them, even if I have to use my German/English dictionary a lot.

    Avoid the notgeld book by Coffing. The info is too general and basically useless if you are trying to get info on a specific note.
     
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  9. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    Thanks. I don't read German either but if I can find the note I can figure it out. I'll see if any of them are available on Bookfinder.

    EDIT: I found them. Seems like there are at least 13 volumes. Starting price per volume, including shipping, is around $33. Probably a little to steep for me but I think I will occasionally check back in case a lower price appears.

    2nd EDIT: Seems like it is not even in the ANA library.
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2017
  10. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    I spent a lot of time IDing Metal notgeld using the Funck Reference (lots of minor sub-types listed) and kept running into words that weren't in the regular German-English Dictionary or didn't make sense. This helped a lot.
    http://www.muenzen-hardelt.de/dic/dict_eng.html
     
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  11. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    I bet the one of the other volumes would have the OPs Aachen note. Depending on what you want to ID, you may only need a few volumes. SOme series have A-L in one volume and M-Z and another so your stuck with buying 2
     
  12. Handy man

    Handy man Member

    Thanks guys anywhere else that I might check into,this one is kinda stubborn lol.
     
  13. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    I use Reinhard Tiestes website for pricing notgeld. www.tieste.de.

    He lists this note at 3 euro.
     
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  14. George Brinton

    George Brinton New Member

    I haven't figured out how to start a new thread here, so I'm stuck with replying...
    I figure some German notgeld might actually have been worth something, had utility, and not just for tourists and collectors at the time.
    Certainly, NG coins through 1919, and paper pfennigs until mid 1922...

    I use the graph below and others in "images" to get an idea of when a particular denomination becomes useless--- 1/10 of a Cent?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Img-Z121706-0001.jpg

    Figure one Gold Mark (GM) = $0.25 USD[1923 silver] and then 1$ US1923silver fetches $17US [2018 bullion] (ballpark)
    Which puts a 1923GM worth $4.25 US2018
    and the you divide that by a thousand Reichsmarks (RM) Nov1922...
    ...which gives you a value of 1RM [Nov1922]= $0.00425 in today's[2018]
    "sense of practical utility".
    Anyway, 100 million RM becomes "worthless" very soon after distribution, but could be used to "make change" in the interim.
     
  15. George McClellan

    George McClellan Active Member

    There are 'notgeld' (non-Reichsbank) big floppy notes not P-or PS-listed and others of milliarden and billionen we may see on ebay.
     
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